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40Mhz channels not working

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  • 1.  40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 01, 2014 03:54 PM

    Hi all,

     

    I have an issue with setting wide (or 40Mhz) channels on an Aruba instant RAP-109. The config seems fine th me, but still only 20Mhz channels are showing in both inSSIDer and Ekahau Site Survey. Anyone a clue as to what could go wrong here?

     

    My config:

    version 6.3.1.0-4.0.0
    virtual-controller-country NL
    virtual-controller-key ---
    name Instant---:--:--
    organization ----
    terminal-access
    clock timezone none 00 00
    rf-band 5.0
    ams-ip ----
    ams-key -----
    ams-identity ----
    
    allow-new-aps
    allowed-ap 24:de:c6:--:--:--
    
    
    
    arm
     wide-bands 5ghz
     80mhz-support
     a-channels 36,40,44,48
     min-tx-power 18
     max-tx-power 127
     band-steering-mode prefer-5ghz
     air-time-fairness-mode fair-access
     client-aware
     scanning
    
    
    syslog-level warn ap-debug 
    syslog-level warn network 
    syslog-level warn security 
    syslog-level warn system 
    syslog-level warn user 
    syslog-level warn user-debug 
    syslog-level warn wireless 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    mgmt-user admin -----
    
    wlan access-rule "Free WiFi"
     index 0
     rule any any match any any any permit
    
    wlan access-rule default_wired_port_profile
     index 1
     rule any any match any any any permit
    
    wlan access-rule wired-instant
     index 2
     rule 192.168.13.191 255.255.255.255 match tcp 80 80 permit
     rule 192.168.13.191 255.255.255.255 match tcp 4343 4343 permit
     rule any any match udp 67 68 permit
     rule any any match udp 53 53 permit
    
    wlan ssid-profile "Free WiFi"
     enable
     index 0
     type employee
     essid "Free WiFi"
     opmode opensystem
     max-authentication-failures 0
     auth-server InternalServer
     rf-band all
     captive-portal disable
     dtim-period 1
     inactivity-timeout 1000
     broadcast-filter none
     g-min-tx-rate 11
     a-min-tx-rate 12
     dmo-channel-utilization-threshold 90
     local-probe-req-thresh 0
     max-clients-threshold 64
    
    auth-survivability cache-time-out 24
    
    
    
    wlan external-captive-portal
     server localhost
     port 80
     url "/"
     auth-text "Authenticated"
     auto-whitelist-disable
     https
    
    
    blacklist-time 3600
    auth-failure-blacklist-time 3600
    
    ids classification
    
    ids
     wireless-containment none
    
    
    wired-port-profile wired-instant
     switchport-mode access
     allowed-vlan all
     native-vlan guest
     no shutdown
     access-rule-name wired-instant
     speed auto
     duplex auto
     no poe
     type guest
     captive-portal disable
     no dot1x
    
    wired-port-profile default_wired_port_profile
     switchport-mode trunk
     allowed-vlan all
     native-vlan 1
     shutdown
     access-rule-name default_wired_port_profile
     speed auto
     duplex full
     no poe
     type employee
     captive-portal disable
     no dot1x
    
    
    enet0-port-profile default_wired_port_profile
    
    uplink
     preemption
     enforce none
     failover-internet-pkt-lost-cnt 10
     failover-internet-pkt-send-freq 30
     failover-vpn-timeout 180
    
    
    airgroup
     disable
    
    airgroupservice airplay
     disable
     description AirPlay
    
    airgroupservice airprint
     disable
     description AirPrint

    inSSIDer result

     

    Knipsel.JPG

     

    Cheers,

     

    Steven


    #3600


  • 2.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working
    Best Answer

    Posted Mar 01, 2014 05:01 PM

    I can see that Your arm profile configure to enable 40mhz only in 5.0 ( as recommended ) but you configure only 4 channels in that spectrum.

     

    I'm sure it will sound stupid... But,

    Does the laptop u examine with supporting 40mhz ?  ( I mean ...check that the driver is on AUTO and not on 20mhz only)



  • 3.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 01, 2014 11:04 PM

    I'm not very familiar with IAPs, but do they have HT SSID profiles like standard APs would?  If so, HT should be enabled.



  • 4.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 02, 2014 08:21 AM

    Thanks for your replies,

     

    @kdisc98: I've tested this with multiple adapters on the same Windows machine and on a MacBook. All of which support 40Mhz.. The reason I've only allowed UNII1 channel is because otherwise the 5Ghz was not visible immediately. Probably DFS CAC.

    @thecompnerd: I don't see an option for HT. HT datarates are being advertised so it's not 11a only.

     

    I did some packet capturing and did some interesting discoveries. AP is transmitting different beacons with different BSSID's, but I've only configured one SSID on 5Ghz:

    1: beacons containing configured SSID info

    2: beacons without SSID info

    PacketCaptureDoubleBeacons.jpg

     

    The HT capabilities IE includes MCS index up to 23, which is translated into 216,70 mbps, because of guard interval, 20Mhz and 3 spatial stream.

    HT capabilities.jpg

    This is also shown in WiFi Scanner:

    ESS.JPG

     

    Ekahau Site Survey sees even the 2 different AP's for the same BSSID however with different capabilities:

    ESS.JPG

    This might be a glitch of ESS, but I've never seen it before with any other vendor.

     

    So, to conclude: not only are 40Mhz channels nog showing, also the RAP-109 is advertising 3 spatial streams while it should only support 2 by hardware design (http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/access-points/rap-100/)

     

    I'm confused :smileyindifferent:

     

    Cheers,

    Steven



  • 5.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working
    Best Answer

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Mar 02, 2014 10:37 AM

    Steven Bos,

     

    Please set 40mhz channels in the ARM profile (e.g. 36+, 44+)



  • 6.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 02, 2014 01:30 PM

    Hi cjoseph,

     

    As far I can see I have configured arm to use 40 Mhz channel.

     

    arm
     wide-bands 5ghz

     The CLI ref guide says about this command:

    Allows administrators to configure 40 MHz. channels in the 2.4 GHz and 5.0 GHz bands. 40 MHz channels are two 20 MHz adjacent channels that are bonded together. The 40 MHz channels double the frequency bandwidth available for data transmission. For high performance, enter 5GHz. If the AP density is low, enter 2.4GHz.

     So it seems like the proper command for the job.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Steven



  • 7.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Mar 02, 2014 01:35 PM

    Please display the output of "show arm-channels"



  • 8.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 02, 2014 01:51 PM

    Hi cjoseph,

     

    Actually you where right about the selected channels! I did not include 36+ and 44+ so therefore no 40Mhz was being used. After selecting these it works :smileyhappy: 

     

    show arm-channels confirms:

    5.0 GHz
    -------
    Channel  Status
    -------  ------
    36       enable
    40       enable
    44       enable
    48       enable
    52       disable
    56       disable
    60       disable
    64       disable
    100      disable
    104      disable
    108      disable
    112      disable
    116      disable
    120      disable
    124      disable
    128      disable
    132      disable
    136      disable
    140      disable
    36+      enable
    44+      enable

     Only now it's broadcasting a max PHY of 450mbps. Still 3 spatial streams...

     

    Cheers,

     

    Steven



  • 9.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 02, 2014 01:58 PM

    Actually you where right about the selected channels! I did not include 36+ and 44+ so therefore no 40Mhz was being used. After selecting these it works :smileyhappy:

     


    sad u didnt read my first post - i wrote the same :) (but with diffrent english) -

    here is my first post:

    I can see that Your arm profile configure to enable 40mhz only in 5.0 ( as recommended ) but you configure only 4 channels in that spectrum.

     

     Only now it's broadcasting a max PHY of 450mbps. Still 3 spatial streams...

     

    The product does 2x2 I Think - that the apple device u did the wifi scanning with supproting up to 3 streams (your screenshot showing details about  rx info)

    Capture.PNG

     

     

    Good to hear that now the 40mhz working for u as needed.



  • 10.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 02, 2014 02:21 PM

    Hi kdisc98,

     

    After re-reading your post, you are absolutely right about the channels. Aruba instant is still new for me and I trying to find my way with it, so getting to the right conclusion is a bit of a challenge still :smileywink:

     

    Not only the MacBook, but also Ekahau Site Survey is showing a max PHY of 450 and the number of streams of 3. Even if it was RX only, the specs of the AP tell different:

    2x2 MIMO with two spatial streams and up to 300 Mbps 
    wireless data rate per radio

     Cheers,

     

    Steven



  • 11.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 02, 2014 02:24 PM

    yep the product (108/109) itself is only 2X2 .. that's y i wrote that it might be something in your macbook .... very wired..

     

     

    You sure that u dont got iAP114 or iAP115 ????

    Can u look on the unit itself? (it got more than 1 eth port? = RAP / it got leds under aruba logo? = AP114/115)

     

    This is RAP 108/109:

    rap108.PNG

    This is iAP114-115:

    114.PNG



  • 12.  RE: 40Mhz channels not working

    Posted Mar 02, 2014 03:37 PM

    Hi,

     

    Yes I'm 100% sure it's a RAP-109. 2 ethernet ports + USB on the side and it came with a nifty desktop stand.

     

    Cheers,

    Steven