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CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

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  • 1.  CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 10, 2012 01:31 PM

    As one part of a simple ClearPass solution I'm trying to implement, my customer is requesting a "BYOD" SSID that will allow any unknown devices to connect, given proper AD credentials.  However:

     

    - laptops must also pass the OnGuard java applet checks (no problem)

    - iPads must be allowed on the same SSID (?)

     

    I know this could be taken care of using the Onboard solution but the customer does not want Onboard or Profile.  I need to find a method to differentiate the access requests coming from iPads so they can bypass the applet as it is not supported by iOS.  One idea I wanted to try was to just allow access if the authentication method was EAP-TLS.  What I've read so far tells me that this would require TLS certificate provisioning on the iPad prior to authentication.  Is there a more simple solution I'm missing for the CPPM to just recognize an iPad sourced request?



  • 2.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 10, 2012 08:26 PM

    Nevermind.  I just learned about DHCP Fingerprinting from the Aruba VRD webpage.



  • 3.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 12, 2012 06:44 AM

    Hi,

    If we can do dhcp fingerprint in the controller what is the point to have clearpass?

    Besides the guest provisioning part?

    I was under the impression that blocking end-point devices should be done using the profiler in the clearpass.

     



  • 4.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 12, 2012 12:43 PM

    Matching the fingerprint just enables you to recognize the device type.. that doesn't put it on par with a full-fledged profiling solution :)



  • 5.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Nov 12, 2012 12:51 PM

    Clearpass allows you to use the manufacturer and/or OS type as a decision variable during authentication.  The controller will assign a different role during association/authentication, but does not offer the rich policy decisionmaking combinations that is available in clearpass.  In addition, ClearPass is multivendor, so WLAN or LAN manufacturers who are not OS-aware can also leverage the the decisionmaking in clearpass that was not available previously.

     



  • 6.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 13, 2012 03:54 AM

    this sounds like a sales pitch :-)

    since DHCP fingerprinting can assign roles it should sofice for me.

     



  • 7.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Nov 13, 2012 06:25 AM

    @shpapy wrote:

    this sounds like a sales pitch :-)

    since DHCP fingerprinting can assign roles it should sofice for me.

     


    shpapy,

     

    It is a sales pitch for whoever needs the solution.  DHCP fingerprinting alone only allows you to change the role of a user based on the OS of the device.  That is good for users like yourself who only want to make a decision based on OS.

     

     If you have to combine it with other things like teacher+ipad,  and student+ipad you need Clear Pass Policy Manager.

     



  • 8.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 13, 2012 07:37 AM

    so its more like an extended functionality.

    got it.

     



  • 9.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 14, 2012 09:03 AM

    i have added the following under services-->enfo.

     

    This is working now and blocked Samsung S3 and apple devices.

    Is this a good way to implement or should I use profiler or a different option, I have full clearpass license.

    Any suggestions will be gladly appreciated.

     

    3.(Connection:Client-Mac-Vendor EQUALS Murata Manufacturing Co., Ltd.)[Deny Access Profile]
    4.(Connection:Client-Mac-Vendor EQUALS Apple, Inc.)

    [Deny Access Profile]



  • 10.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 19, 2012 07:55 AM

    you are doing this on clearpass now, or the controller?

     

    because i thought that user derivation (i.e. DHCP finger printing) doesnt work with dot1x? also doesnt the above block iPads too?



  • 11.  RE: CPPM - Differentiating authentication requests coming from iPads

    Posted Nov 19, 2012 07:57 AM

    im not using user role derivation in the controller i do it in the clearpass based on vendor mac.

    the controller is not a part of the setup for the blocking.