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SAN 3810M Stacking

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  • 1.  SAN 3810M Stacking

    Posted Jun 14, 2018 05:40 PM

    What would be the best way to add a pair of stacked 3810M switches to our existing SAN of two ProCurve 6600s that are configured in a distributed trunk? Would it be best to create a trunk that spans both 3810s over to the first 6600, and another similar trunk destined for the second 660? I wasn't sure what kind of trunk to implement and if you could split it across the stacked 3810s.

    6600 has only 4 SFP+ ports with the rest 1 Gig Ethernet.

    3810M has 16 SFP+ ports.



  • 2.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 14, 2018 06:48 PM
    Hi

    If you stack two 3810M switches they logically become one switch. And if the 6600 have a distributed trunk you could setup a trunk (two ports total, one per 3810M) to the first 6600 and a second trunk to the second 6600. Setup is up as you would connect a server redundant to both 6600’s.

    On the 3810M setup the trunk as a lacp, on the 6600 as a dt-lacp if I am not mistaken. But this was some time ago and I can’t test it in my lab. No legacy hardware, sorry. So check with manual of 6600 to be sure.

    Hope it helps


  • 3.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 14, 2018 07:39 PM

    Frank is right, you would configure dt-lacp LAGs on the 6600s and LACP LAGs on the 3810s like so:

     

    6600(config)# trunk 20,21 trk1 dt-lacp

     

    3810(config)# trunk 1/1,2/1 trk1 lacp

     

    Justin



  • 4.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    Posted Jun 15, 2018 12:24 PM

    Ok, thanks, Justin. So that would be for the first 6600? The second would be similar, correct? ...

     

    6600 primary to 3810 stacked:

    6600(config)# trunk 20,21 trk1 dt-lacp

    3810(config)# trunk 1/1,2/1 trk1 lacp

     

    6600 secondary to 3810 stacked:

    6600(config)# trunk 20,21 trk2 dt-lacp

    3810(config)# trunk 1/2,2/2 trk2 lacp



  • 5.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    Posted Jun 15, 2018 12:27 PM

    Also, why would the 6600 need to be configured in dt-lacp vs standard lacp? If the stacked 3810s are logically one switch, shouldn't it be lacp on both sides of the trunk?



  • 6.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 15, 2018 12:50 PM
    Because the 6600 does distributed trunking!!!

    And the 3810M doesn’t.

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  • 7.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 15, 2018 06:08 PM

    Yes, that configuration would be correct.

     

    As with what Frank said, since we're using DT, we need to use the dt-lacp option so that the DT-LACPDUs can be sent out over the DT pair's links to share the LAG information between the DT pair and 3810s.

     

    Justin



  • 8.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    Posted Jun 15, 2018 06:53 PM

    Sorry to beat this horse to death, but one more question... I would think the DT-LACP would be configured on the 6600 if the design was like the second one below. Can you confirm, or explain the difference between the two? Thanks!

     

    Design 1

    6600 primary to 3810 stacked:

    6600(config)# trunk 20,21 trk1 dt-lacp

    3810(config)# trunk 1/1,2/1 trk1 lacp

     

    6600 secondary to 3810 stacked:

    6600(config)# trunk 20,21 trk2 dt-lacp

    3810(config)# trunk 1/2,2/2 trk2 lacp

     

    Design 2

    6600 primary:

    6600(config)# trunk 20 trk1 dt-lacp

    6600(config)# trunk 21 trk2 dt-lacp

     

    6600 secondary:

    6600(config)# trunk 20 trk1 dt-lacp

    6600(config)# trunk 21 trk2 dt-lacp

     

     

    3810 stack:

    3810(config)# trunk 1/1,1/2 trk1 lacp

    3810(config)# trunk 2/2,2/2 trk2 lacp

     

     

     



  • 9.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 15, 2018 07:02 PM

     

    You'll want the trunks balanced over the 3810 stack for redundancy in the case of a stack member issue/failure.

     

     

     



  • 10.  RE: SAN 3810M Stacking
    Best Answer

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 15, 2018 07:11 PM
    Hi

    The 3810M stacked can be considered as one logical switch. But the two 6600’s are NOT one logical switch. As there will be a link between the two 6600’s you need to try to avoid spanningtree.
    So on the 3810M stack create a trunk (lacp) out of 4 interfaces. Two will be connected to 6600-1 and two will be connected to 6600-2. On both 6600’s create a two port dt-lacp based trunk. And the 6600’s will have a isl between them.
    From the view of the 3810M it can be considered as a 4 port lacp.

    Hope this helps