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Anyone doing Jumbo? Any Tricks or Traps?

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  • 1.  Anyone doing Jumbo? Any Tricks or Traps?

    Posted Dec 30, 2014 10:23 AM

     

    We're eventually looking to get jumbo frames working between our

    225s/275s and the controllers, once we manage to plumb jumbo

    across the distro/edge.

     

    As far as I can see by the manual, this is specific to AP communications

    tunnels, and would not affect the MTU used by other services on the

    controller, e.g. ssh, web, Airwave communications, RADIUS, syslog.  Is this

    a correct assessment?  Or if not, is the controller going to properly

    PMTUD all these services?

     

    The manual seems to infer that all that is needed is one firewall

    setting, and then to set the MTU on port channels/interfaces on the

    controller.  When we initially installed the controller we turned all these

    bells on, even though we knew the distro layer would swat down

    the traffic, and PMTUD seems to have done the trick and kept everything

    more or less happy since then, minus of course the HP switches whining

    about the DF probe packets..

     

    We do note, however, that even though jumbo is enabled on both

    the controller 10G uplinks, and the portchannel to which they belong,

    a show interfaces command will show the portchannel at 9216 but the

    member ports still have MTU 1500 showing (and do not show the

    Jumbo support status line).  We also wonder whether the MTU setting on

    the SVI for the vlan serving AP tunnels will need attention.

     

    Interested to hear if anyone has got this working and whether there

    were any additional pitfalls or things to look out for.

     


    #AP225


  • 2.  RE: Anyone doing Jumbo? Any Tricks or Traps?

    Posted Mar 04, 2015 09:06 AM

    Did you get this figured out?  Looking at enabling jumbo frames as well.



  • 3.  RE: Anyone doing Jumbo? Any Tricks or Traps?

    Posted Mar 04, 2015 10:04 AM

     

    Current status is this:

     

    1) We've been assured by TAC that no settings to the SVI are needed

    (or desireable) just the firewall setting and the individual ports/bundles.

     

    2) There are several places to look to verify whether PMTU is succeeding

    at the frame size you expect.

       A) "show ap debug system-information" will spit out lots of stuff including

       PMTU values and MTU values for uplinks.

       B) "show ap bss-table" has an mtu column

       C) "show datapath tunnel | include <ap-ip>" will give mtu values for various

           tunnels constructed between the AP and controller, and most of those

           tunnels are AFAICT supposed to negotiate the jumbo MTU.

       D) Show datapath frame has some Jumbo related counters.

     

    3)  We have had mixed results on these indicators.  We've seen baby giant

    MTUs on A,B,C for every AP we expect jumbos to reach.  We've seen

    a >=9k MTU on A for all those, but only a baby giant MTU on B and C unless

    the AP is directly attached to the controller.  It's unclear to us exactly what

    D is counting.  We do not know whether these discrepancies are cosmetic or

    a real issue.

     

    4) Next step is to play with the D indicator, TAC has requested us to do some

    tests which which I hope to get to shortly.

     



  • 4.  RE: Anyone doing Jumbo? Any Tricks or Traps?

    Posted May 19, 2015 10:16 AM

    Update:

     

    Today we have been able to confirm that:

     

    If the path between an AP and the controller is clean for 9216 frame sizes, tunnels will build and display an MTU of 9000.

     

    If the path between an AP and the controller is clean for frame sizes of 9000, tunnels will build and display an MTU of 1578.

     

    Note that some vendors switches do not support jumbo frame sizes above 9000, so you won't be doing 9000-MTU AP tunnels across a Cisco catalyst 29xx for example.

     

    These latest tests were performed on 6.4.2.5.

     

    We have a ticket in, and hopefully Aruba will address the issue of smaller-than-9216 jumbo paths only using MTU 1578.

     



  • 5.  RE: Anyone doing Jumbo? Any Tricks or Traps?

    Posted May 20, 2015 01:54 PM

    And another update: At least for MTU paths of 9000, 6.4.3.1 fixes this.  Whether you can go lower than 9000 we won't be testing.