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Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor

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  • 1.  Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 08, 2015 11:07 AM

    My customer has a serious question and doubt in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity comparing to our competitor. They already understand the benefit of Client-Match. But Receiver sensitivity will be another criteria to deploy AP to coverage large of user. 

     

    My customer is Mobile Service Operator which looking AP to do WIFI-Offloading. They install AP around 40,000+ AP per year in public area. So the receiver sensitivity is their big issue.

     

    Comparing between AP215 and Cisco 2700, example.

         on 802.11ac-40MHZ, MCS9,  our sensitivity is -61 dB, Competitor is - 69 dB.  We have 8 dB gap

         on 802.11n-5Ghz-40MHz MCS7, our sensitivity is -69 dB, Competitor is -75 dB. we have 6 dB gap

     

    So how should i response to my customer about this parameter which is write on our Datasheet?

    Does our datasheet is wrong ? or it provides too few information due to they grouping MCS7,15,23?

         on 802.11n-5Ghz-40MHz MCS23, our sensitivity is -69 dB, Competitor is -71 dB. we are a litte bit improve ?

    What is the result in the real environment ?  How much it affect on coverage? 6 dB mean 4 times of power drop?

     

    Please kindly help me to figure out this. Thank you in advance

     



  • 2.  RE: Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor
    Best Answer

    Posted Dec 08, 2015 11:43 AM

    Aruba is per chain, Cisco is aggregate

     

    Aruba

     

    So for rx -90 dBm per chain becomes -94.8 dBm aggregate on AP-215

     

    For tx 18 dBm per chain become 22.8dBm aggregate on AP-215

     

    Cisco is 4 chains so to get back to per chain

    Rx

     

    -96 dBm aggregate becomes -90 dBm per chain

     

    Tx

     

    23 dBm aggregate becomes 17 dBm per chain

     

    Also, we knowingly take some hit on 2.4 rx because of the filtering in place to protect against co location with DAS systems. Cisco does not do that.



  • 3.  RE: Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 08, 2015 11:47 AM

    Hi E Johnson,

     

    Could you please provide me how to calculate and compare between "per chain" and "Aggregate" ?

     

     

    Thank you in advance.



  • 4.  RE: Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor
    Best Answer

    Posted Dec 08, 2015 11:50 AM

    The difference between per chain and aggregate is

     

    10*log(#antennas)

     

    for

    Antennas     Per chain to Aggregate

    2                        3 dB

    3                      4.8 dB

    4                      6.0 dB

    ....



  • 5.  RE: Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 08, 2015 11:53 AM

    Hi E Johnson,

     

    Wow, and thank you very much for kind support.



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  • 7.  RE: Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 08, 2015 12:17 PM

    Here are just a couple charts showing competitive performance between the AP-215 and Cisco 2702, taken indoors in an office environment at different distances. 215v2702_RatevRange.png

     

     

    There is no realized performance gain, and in fact, the AP-215 outperforms the 2702 out to 120ft non-line-of-sight. As clients get closer, the performance gap is even widened. 



  • 8.  RE: Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor

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  • 9.  RE: Different in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity compare to competitor

    Posted Jan 03, 2016 11:21 PM

    E Johnson,

     

    Are there any document, either from Cisco or Aruba, show that cisco is per aggregate and Aruba is per chain?

     

    Thank You


    piyaphol@hpe.com wrote:

    My customer has a serious question and doubt in Aruba AP's receiver sensitivity comparing to our competitor. They already understand the benefit of Client-Match. But Receiver sensitivity will be another criteria to deploy AP to coverage large of user. 

     

    My customer is Mobile Service Operator which looking AP to do WIFI-Offloading. They install AP around 40,000+ AP per year in public area. So the receiver sensitivity is their big issue.

     

    Comparing between AP215 and Cisco 2700, example.

         on 802.11ac-40MHZ, MCS9,  our sensitivity is -61 dB, Competitor is - 69 dB.  We have 8 dB gap

         on 802.11n-5Ghz-40MHz MCS7, our sensitivity is -69 dB, Competitor is -75 dB. we have 6 dB gap

     

    So how should i response to my customer about this parameter which is write on our Datasheet?

    Does our datasheet is wrong ? or it provides too few information due to they grouping MCS7,15,23?

         on 802.11n-5Ghz-40MHz MCS23, our sensitivity is -69 dB, Competitor is -71 dB. we are a litte bit improve ?

    What is the result in the real environment ?  How much it affect on coverage? 6 dB mean 4 times of power drop?

     

    Please kindly help me to figure out this. Thank you in advance