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Master Redunancy and Local Redundancy at same time?

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  • 1.  Master Redunancy and Local Redundancy at same time?

    Posted Apr 04, 2013 04:13 PM

    Ok, I've poured over the VRDs for campus design till my eyes are crossing, and still not able to get this right. It might be that what I am trying to do just can't be done this way so I'm asking for help on my design...

     

    Here's the setup:

    • (1) chassis with (3) controllers, all 6000s. Aruba_Master, Aruba_Local1, and Aruba_Local2
    • VRRP instance 42 is configured between Master and Local 1
    • The VIP for instance 42 is what the DNS (A) record for aruba-master points at.
    • Master and Local1 are configured in Master/Standby and that is working fine. Database sync is working, VRRP is working. 
    • Total of about 480 APs in our network. We have licenses split between the three controllers 256/256/256. 
    • Each of the locals get about half the APs. So about 240 to Local1, 240 to Local2.

    What I want to do is set up two more VRRP instances:  Local1 <-> Master,  and Local2 <-> Master. Then have that single virtual IP be the primary LMS on those two system policies, rather than using primary and backup LMS ips.

     

    However, if I try to do that on Controller1, which is currently the backup master, the APs all go into a reboot cycle and claim they cannot connect to the VIP for that VRRP instance, even though I can ping it and I can SSH to it and reach the Local1 controller using that VIP.

     

    What am I missing? On a possibly related note, I now see that all the APs configured to use Local1 as primary LMS and Master as backup LMS are heading to Master instead of Local1. So Local1 has 0 APs registered to it despite the reboots.

     

    Aruba Redundancy VRRP example.png

     

    Edit:  Software is 6.1.3.6-AirGroup_37387 on all three controllers.



  • 2.  RE: Master Redunancy and Local Redundancy at same time?
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    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Apr 04, 2013 05:25 PM

    A Backup master cannot terminate APs, period.

     



  • 3.  RE: Master Redunancy and Local Redundancy at same time?

    Posted Apr 04, 2013 05:31 PM

    Welp, that answers that then. Hmm. So how to set up redunancy for the APs then? Ideas?

     

    And here's another question...

     

    If I leave the licenses on the standby master, will it accept APs in the event of the primary Master failing? 

     


    That would be silly, as I doubt I can have a VRRP instance monitoring another VRRP IP.



  • 4.  RE: Master Redunancy and Local Redundancy at same time?

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Apr 04, 2013 05:43 PM

    If the primary fails, the access points that are pointed to the VRRP will then be accepted by the backup.

     

     

    In your current scenario, you only have two targets:  the VRRP and the ip address of local2.  In the first AP-Group, the LMS-IP is the VRRP.  In the second AP-Group the LMS-IP is the ip address of local2.  If you make it a single master and two locals, you can theoretically have access points on all three controllers, but no backup for your master.

     

    Consider this option:

     

    If you want to talk a design that makes all of your 6000  capacity, put in place 2 3200s as master/backup with minimal licensing and make the VRRP between them answer to aruba-master.  Make all of your remaining 6000s locals to the 3200s.  The 3200s will then redirect your access points based on ap-group  to the 3 6000s in a number of N+1 scenarios, if you would like.  Please speak to an Aruba Engineer who knows your network to see if this would even be feasible with your current setup.



  • 5.  RE: Master Redunancy and Local Redundancy at same time?

    Posted Apr 04, 2013 05:54 PM

    Ok, so I guess our best bet is to buy another 256 licenses, and have 256 free on either end of Master VRRP <> Local2 with the load just split between the two of them.? We had originally split it this way to reduce cost by having to only buy 150% of total capacity instead of 200%

     

    If I did that, then:

     

    - Master failure = Local1 becomes Master, Local1 takes Master's half of the APs.

    - Local 2 failure = Master takes all APs.

    - Local 1 failure = no effect, except that Master has no backup.

     

    Problem with your dual 3200 proposal is that our chassis only has four slots. Hrm. 

     

    Something like this?Aruba Redundancy VRRP example 2.png



  • 6.  RE: Master Redunancy and Local Redundancy at same time?

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Apr 04, 2013 06:04 PM

    @TESC-DanScherck wrote:

    Ok, so I guess our best bet is to buy another 256 licenses, and have 256 free on either end of Master VRRP <> Local2 with the load just split between the two of them.? We had originally split it this way to reduce cost by having to only buy 150% of total capacity instead of 200%

     

    If I did that, then:

     

    - Master failure = Local1 becomes Master, Local1 takes Master's half of the APs.

    - Local 2 failure = Master takes all APs.

    - Local 1 failure = no effect, except that Master has no backup.

     

    Problem with your dual 3200 proposal is that our chassis only has four slots. Hrm. 


    The 3200s are single-U controllers that do not fit into a chassis.  They would not be in the chassis.  They would exist simply to answer access points that come up and route half to controller #1, and half to controller#2.  Controller #3 would be the backup LMS for both AP-Groups and function as the +1 in the N+1

     

    Please check with your local SE to see if this would even be feasible.