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  • 1.  6300M issues with adding third member

    Posted 28 days ago

    Hi guys, 

    I have an existing stack with two S0E91A switches. I was trying to add one more switch to the stack, model number is JL658A. After not being able to add it I had to revert everything as it was and postpone this task until I can figure out what is going on. I ordered 2 pcs of the JL658A since I have to do the same thing on another site, so I also tried with that one to eliminate any possibilities of hardware issues.

    On member 2 port 50 I installed a 40G to 10G QSFP to SFP+ adapter (adjusted the group speed to 40g) and connected the new member 3 (JL658A) on port 25 to it with a 10G DAC cable. Also added the port 50 as vsf link 2 for member 2.

    The new member 3 is on version 10.10.1070, while members 1 and 2 are on 10.13.1000, but as far as I can see there should be no issue with VSF automatically upgrading the new one to the 10.13. Also, if that was the reason I should get a log message for that if I'm not mistaken, which I didn't.

    I tried adding it both with autojoin and manually, so I'll explain both cases separately.

    1) Autojoin

    After pushing a erase zeroize on the new switch, I connected it as explained above to the member 2. Member 2 port 50 went up and member 3 was created in the running config with the correct device type. But, member 3 wasn't joining the stack, it was just running like normal instead of rebooting and joining the stack. These are the log messages:

    2025-06-14T22:53:38.504619+02:00 hostname ipsavd[3631]: Event|8213|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Dynamic binding entries on the port 3/1/26 were cleared.
    2025-06-14T22:53:33.054004+02:00 hostname ipsavd[3631]: Event|8213|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Dynamic binding entries on the port 3/1/25 were cleared.
    2025-06-14T22:53:26.299889+02:00 hostname hpe-cardd[823]: Event|3233|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Line module 3/1 configured with product number JL658A
    2025-06-14T22:51:30.682027+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:30.681800+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:30.667543+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9923|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|VSF link 2 is up
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.858930+02:00 hostname vsfd[4406]: Event|9923|LOG_INFO|STBY|2|VSF link 2 is up
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.724664+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.724590+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.724513+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.724434+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.724346+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.724193+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9959|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 applied for all VSF interfaces
    2025-06-14T22:51:29.691768+02:00 hostname vsfd[792]: Event|9958|LOG_INFO|CDTR|1|Egress port shape rate 10000000 will be applied for all VSF interfaces

    This is the status in sh vsf and sh vsf link detail:

    hostname(config)# sh vsf
    Force Autojoin             : Disabled
    Autojoin Eligibility Status: Not Eligible
    MAC Address                : 4c:d5:87:52:0d:00
    Egress Shape Rate          : 10000000 kbps
    Secondary                  : 2
    Topology                   : Chain
    Status                     : No Split
    Split Detection Method     : None


    Mbr Mac Address         type           Status   
    ID
    --- ------------------- -------------- ---------------
    1   4c:d5:87:52:0d:00   S0E91A         Conductor
    2   4c:d5:87:52:4c:40   S0E91A         Standby
    3                       JL658A         Not Present

    hostname(config)# sh vsf link detail

    VSF Member: 1  Link 1

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    1/1/51   up                    S            2/1/51          4c:d5:87:52:4c:40  S0E91A

    VSF Member: 1  Link 2

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    1/1/50   down                  D            


    VSF Member: 2  Link 1

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    2/1/51   up                    S            1/1/51          4c:d5:87:52:0d:00  S0E91A


    VSF Member: 2  Link 2

    Port     State                              Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------                -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    2/1/50   autojoin in progress                   AP            3/1/25          34:c5:15:7e:c0:80  JL658A


    VSF Member: 3  Link 1

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    3/1/25   down                  D            


    VSF Member: 3  Link 2

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    3/1/26   down                  D            

     

    As you can see, it says autojoin in progress under VSF Member 2 link 2, so I left it like this for 30 minutes, but nothing was happening. Then I tried rebooting the member 3, unplugging the cable and plugging it back in, erase zeroize again, still nothing.

    2) Manual adding

    Also tried adding it manually after the autojoin didn't work.

    Following the official VSF stacking guide, I connected to the member 3 and configured this:
    vsf member 1

    link 1 1/1/25

    link 2 1/1/26

    exit

    vsf renumber-to 3

    Also, on the existing stack I removed member 3 from the vsf config since it was automatically created by autojoin.

    After that, the switch automatically started rebooting and I connected the DAC cable from port 25 to port 50 on member 2. After it booted up, ports went up, but again the stack didn't form. Logs:

    025-06-13T14:40:09.090072+02:00 MEXSTNC7-0-1-01 vsflinkd[4406]: Event|9947|LOG_WARN|||Switch with MAC 34:c5:15:7e:c0:80 failed to autojoin. Connect the device 34:c5:15:7e:c0:80 to member 2 link 2 to proceed
    2025-06-13T14:40:05.992620+02:00 MEXSTNC7-0-1-01 intfd[774]: Event|403|LOG_INFO|UKWN|1|Link status for interface 2/1/50 is up at 10 Gbps with no FEC
    2025-06-13T14:40:03.090113+02:00 MEXSTNC7-0-1-01 pmd[4406]: Event|3808|LOG_INFO|STBY|2|Transceiver 10G-DAC3 inserted in 2/1/50 is unsupported, but allowed. An HPE pluggable module that is not fully supported in this interface, but is allowed because allow-unsupported-transceiver is configured
    2025-06-13T14:40:03.089960+02:00 MEXSTNC7-0-1-01 pmd[4406]: Event|3812|LOG_INFO|STBY|2|Adapter QSA28 inserted in 2/1/50 is supported. A QSFP-to-SFP adapter that is supported in this interface
    2025-06-13T14:40:02.589836+02:00 MEXSTNC7-0-1-01 pmd[4406]: Event|3804|LOG_INFO|STBY|2|Transceiver hot-swap insert for interface 2/1/50

    The first line makes no sense, since the new member 3 is connected to exactly that port and that was visible in vsf link detail:

    VSF Member: 1  Link 1

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    1/1/51   up                    S            2/1/51          4c:d5:87:52:4c:40  S0E91A


    VSF Member: 1  Link 2

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    1/1/50   down                  D                                                


    VSF Member: 2  Link 1

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    2/1/51   up                    S            1/1/51          4c:d5:87:52:0d:00  S0E91A


    VSF Member: 2  Link 2

    Port     State                 Status Code  Peer Interface  Peer System MAC    Peer Product Type
    -------  --------------------  -----------  --------------  -----------------  -----------------
    2/1/50   up                    S            3/1/25          34:c5:15:7e:c0:80  JL658A

    I checked the ports and the configurations, everything for like 50 times and it looks correct to me.

    What crossed my mind as possible issues are that member 1 and member 2 are connected with 100G DAC cable, and this connection is done over a qsfp to sfp+ adapter for a 10g connection. But in the official VSF stacking guide it says that you can combine different speeds and that it will automatically lower the egress rate of all ports in VSF, which it did as you can see in logs.

     I didn't have any issues when creating this stack and adding member 2 to the member 1, no idea why this is being so difficult. If anyone has experienced a similar issue please let me know.

    Post

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    Robert



  • 2.  RE: 6300M issues with adding third member

    Posted 25 days ago

    Anyone have any ideas?




  • 3.  RE: 6300M issues with adding third member

    Posted 25 days ago

    Hi

     

    Well, I have no real experience with a similar situation. I never tried to add another stack member to a stack with a different speed on the stacking link.

    My wild guess is that the mismatch of speeds could be a source of problem here. Even though egress rate is adjusted, it still looks like it doesn't work as expected.
    Would it be possible to use a 10G stacking connection between member 1 and member 2 (for instance by using one of the copper interfaces) and then try to add member 3 to the stack?

     

    Did you open a TAC case on the topic already? Maybe they have more insights into the issue.

     

    Regards,

    Thomas

     

     

     






  • 4.  RE: 6300M issues with adding third member

    Posted 24 days ago

    What port speeds do VSF links support?

    • 6200F: VSF allows stacks to be formed using any combination of SKUs of the 6200 family. Up to 8 member switches will be allowed. Connections between the switches must use 1G SFP/SFP+ either with 1G copper downlink ports, 10G links, or SmartRate ports.
    • 6300: VSF allows stacks to be formed using any combination of SKUs of the 6300 family. Up to 10 member switches will be allowed. Connections between the switches must use 10G, 25G, or 50G links. All VSF links in a stack should operate at the same speed.

      The VSF stack, containing only the S0E91A and S0X44A SKUs, supports 10G, 25G, and 100G speed links. If a VSF stack includes a mix of S0E91A/S0X44A SKU and other SKUs, then it supports 10G, 25G VSF links, SmartRate ports and only.