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  • 1.  AirGroup disallowed VLANs / AppleTV deployment

    Posted Dec 01, 2014 04:16 PM

    Hello all,

     

    I have a 1 master / 2 local architecture with controlers in 6.3.1.2. All the WLANs are in tunnel mode.

     

    My needs seem very basic:

    • One of my VLAN / WLAN is dedicated to wired and wireless printers (for regular computers), 
    • Another VLAN / WLAN is dedicated to internal iPhone and iPad (last iOS versions),
    • I would like to use Airgroup to make iPhone/iPad print on 2 wireless printers...
    • I would like to deploy AppleTVs within the VLAN of iPhone / iPad
    • I don't want the other VLAN / WLAN to receive the Bonjour announce.

    I did read that (please correct me if i'm wrong :) )

    • Airgroup is involved only for the search and answer steps... then it's regular unicast flow (and so through the default gateway...),
    • Bonjour is multicast DNS so i need to check on the concerned VLANs that multicast packets are not dropped,
    • If i deploy AppleTV in the same VLANs of iPhone/iPad, i need to check that inter-user trafic is allowed
    • Airgroup can be disallowed for specific VLANs,
    • I need Clearpass to restrict AirGroup within an AP-Group.

    So first problem about my printing needs:

    • I try to set up Airgroup: iPhone find the printer and the flow is OK but other devices on "disallowed" VLANs can see the printer...

    Second problem about AppleTV:

    • Other devices can also see the AppleTV on "disallowed" VLANs,
    • On iPhone, if Bluetooth is off, AirPlay doesn't appear... Does it mean that AppleTV and the iPhone have to be close to each other ?

    I can't find any resolved issues on the release notes about that kind of problems.

     

    Thanks for your help.

    Rgds

     



  • 2.  RE: AirGroup disallowed VLANs / AppleTV deployment

    Posted Dec 01, 2014 05:00 PM
    That would mean it's most likely using Bluetooth discovery to find the device. This is a new feature on iOS and can't be controlled from the wireless since we don't have control over Bluetooth. You'd need to disable the Bluetooth discovery on the Apple TV.


  • 3.  RE: AirGroup disallowed VLANs / AppleTV deployment

    Posted Mar 18, 2015 09:28 AM

    We see the same issue of being able to discover Apple TV's from a disallowed vlan.

    It is not via Bluetooth, as it works from a Windows Box (using AirParrot), or an OS X box with Bluetooth disabled.

     

    In short, the Apple TV is connected to an allowed vlan.

    Client device is connected to a disallowed vlan.

    Client device can see the Apple TV.

     

    I'm working with support on a resolution now



  • 4.  RE: AirGroup disallowed VLANs / AppleTV deployment

    Posted Apr 23, 2015 10:32 AM

    did you ever work this out Ben?

     

    i have seen the same and believe the newer apple tvs allow so direct access via wifi channels, but not via an AP.



  • 5.  RE: AirGroup disallowed VLANs / AppleTV deployment

    Posted Apr 23, 2015 12:26 PM

    I believe the disallow was only for Airgroup servers, not for clients.

     

    We ended up setting a guest role for the users on our Public Wireless, and disallowing the mdns service to the guest role.