Cloud Managed Networks

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Sonos and other products like Chromecasts, Philips HUE use multicastDNS (mDNS) for discovery. You say your Sonos is wired in the same VLAN as your SSID which should be fine in my eyes. Disable broadcast filtering and multicast optimalisation. Maybe connect your Sonos also wireless to the same SSID without Wired.

What is the user-role/acl that a wireless client get?

Maybe you can share your CLI configuration?

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Marcel Koedijk | MVP Expert 2023 | ACEP | ACMP | ACCP | ACDP | Ekahau ECSE | Not an HPE Employee | Opinions are my own
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Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 07:09 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Hi

Yes as i wrote, disabling broadcast filtering is the way to go, on AOS8. But this is AOS10 and there is no cluster in the same way as AOS8, all AP's are standalone and Central is the VC.
MTO and DMO is adisabled as well.

Customer wants the SONOS on cable, and i will not argue about this, as this should work without the need to use only wireless.
What he actually tells me is that when he sets this up for the first time, the system is work, the APP is able to find the SONOS.
After a time, not sure how long, but i suspect it's short, system just disappears and the phone are unable to locate SONOS.
If he setup the system from the beginning again, without tampering with the wifi, it will work for a time again.

He even has a phone to wired network cable and this is working without problems. It's when he is using the AOS10 wifi it will break.
So if any has any experience with AOS10 and SONOS, please update

The role which the client receives is all open, no restrictions on this. The discovery will happen on layer-2 anyway, so this should not be affected in that way.

He has opened a TAC, but they take their time with it.

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| ACMP | ACSP | ACCP | ACEP | ACNT |
-Just your regular airhead-
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Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 02:45 PM
From: mkk
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Sonos and other products like Chromecasts, Philips HUE use multicastDNS (mDNS) for discovery. You say your Sonos is wired in the same VLAN as your SSID which should be fine in my eyes. Disable broadcast filtering and multicast optimalisation. Maybe connect your Sonos also wireless to the same SSID without Wired.

What is the user-role/acl that a wireless client get?

Maybe you can share your CLI configuration?

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Marcel Koedijk | MVP Expert 2023 | ACEP | ACMP | ACCP | ACDP | Ekahau ECSE | Not an HPE Employee | Opinions are my own

Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 07:09 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Hi, 

I do have several Sonos devices and controllers (both wired and wireless) and have used AOS 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 without issues. I do have broadcast filter disabled and also AirGroup disabled. wired and wireless are in the same VLAN.

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John Schaap ACEX#12
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Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 07:09 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Hi John

Great to hear a confirmation that the principle of the setup is working on AOS10. There should be no reason for this NOT working.
Might of course be some differences related to different SONOS devices, but this is outside the Aruba sphere.

He as added to much to the Airgroup system inside his Central, meaning that Airgroup has failed (not able to turn on), i have urged them to get this sorted by TAC.
But broadcast filtering set to DISABLED should do the trick.

I will rely this info to the guy having issues with this

Roar

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| ACMP | ACSP | ACCP | ACEP | ACNT |
-Just your regular airhead-
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Original Message:
Sent: Nov 28, 2023 03:43 AM
From: John Schaap
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi, 

I do have several Sonos devices and controllers (both wired and wireless) and have used AOS 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 without issues. I do have broadcast filter disabled and also AirGroup disabled. wired and wireless are in the same VLAN.

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John Schaap ACEX#12

Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 07:09 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Original Message:
Sent: 11/28/2023 3:43:00 AM
From: John Schaap
Subject: RE: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi, 

I do have several Sonos devices and controllers (both wired and wireless) and have used AOS 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 without issues. I do have broadcast filter disabled and also AirGroup disabled. wired and wireless are in the same VLAN.

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John Schaap ACEX#12
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Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 07:09 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Hi mkk

I will ask them if thats ok. I guess you still talk about AOS10, because on AOS8 i know it works, and the customer also are able to make it work in AOS8.

Roar

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| ACMP | ACSP | ACCP | ACEP | ACNT |
-Just your regular airhead-
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Original Message:
Sent: Nov 28, 2023 07:32 AM
From: mkk
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

I don't have issues with chromecast and philips hue that also use mDNS multicast. Can you share your configuration in cli?

Original Message:
Sent: 11/28/2023 3:43:00 AM
From: John Schaap
Subject: RE: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi, 

I do have several Sonos devices and controllers (both wired and wireless) and have used AOS 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 without issues. I do have broadcast filter disabled and also AirGroup disabled. wired and wireless are in the same VLAN.

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John Schaap ACEX#12

Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 07:09 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Original Message:
Sent: 11/28/2023 7:38:00 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: RE: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi mkk

I will ask them if thats ok. I guess you still talk about AOS10, because on AOS8 i know it works, and the customer also are able to make it work in AOS8.

Roar

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| ACMP | ACSP | ACCP | ACEP | ACNT |
-Just your regular airhead-
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Original Message:
Sent: Nov 28, 2023 07:32 AM
From: mkk
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

I don't have issues with chromecast and philips hue that also use mDNS multicast. Can you share your configuration in cli?

Original Message:
Sent: 11/28/2023 3:43:00 AM
From: John Schaap
Subject: RE: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi, 

I do have several Sonos devices and controllers (both wired and wireless) and have used AOS 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 without issues. I do have broadcast filter disabled and also AirGroup disabled. wired and wireless are in the same VLAN.

------------------------------
John Schaap ACEX#12

Original Message:
Sent: Nov 24, 2023 07:09 AM
From: Mosher
Subject: AOS10 + SONOS

Hi

A customer of ours are having problems with SONOS after switching to AOS10. 
They do have a smaller setup of Instant AP's running AOS8 systems, and on this setup the SONOS has no problems.

AOS10 systems consist of newer AP-6xx and Aruba CX (6100) switches, wireless system was running 10.4.x but has later been upgraded to 10.5.x.
SONOS system is connected to cable on 6100 switches on an access port with some vlan.

There is a SSID with the same vlan, broadcast filter is set to disabled. This is usually the one thing you need to adjust in a AOS8 IAP setup if you are unable to locate streaming devices of some sort.
Client connected to the SSID is using SONOS APP to try to find the SONOS system to control playback etc.
The phone/APP is not able to find the SONOS speakers.
He has added most services he was able to find in documentation and on Airheads, without this solving the problem.

I was wondering if anybody has had any success in adding SONOS to AOS10 systems and are able to control it by using a APP on the phone. 
All feedback is welcome

Roar 

Hi

Yes, after a bit of help from TAC, customer was able to solve the Airgroup problem. Too many servers was added and the Airgroup feature was unable to turn on/off. This has now been resolved.

SONOS does not work yet, according to the customer, will at the current CLI output.

version 10.5.0.0-10.5.0

virtual-controller-country NO

name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

terminal-access

ntp-server 10.1.1.1

clock timezone Amsterdam 01 00

clock summer-time CEST recurring last sunday march 00:00 last sunday october 03:00

rf-band 5.0

snmp-server community aasdec2ssssssssssdasdf26asd3d

syslog-level warn ap-debug 

syslog-level warn network 

syslog-level warn security 

syslog-level warn system 

syslog-level warn user 

syslog-level warn user-debug 

syslog-level warn wireless 

deny-inter-user-bridging

hash-mgmt-password

hash-mgmt-user admin password hash **************************************************************************

wlan access-list route "default policy"

 index 0

 rule any any any any match any any any redirect cluster

wlan access-rule default_wired_port_profile

 index 0

 rule any any match any any any permit

 airslice-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

 monitoring-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

wlan access-rule wired-SetMeUp

 index 1

 rule masterip 0.0.0.0 match tcp 80 80 permit

 rule masterip 0.0.0.0 match tcp 4343 4343 permit

 rule any any match udp 67 68 permit

 rule any any match udp 53 53 permit

 airslice-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

 monitoring-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

wlan access-rule NETWORK2 

 utf8

 index 2

 rule any any match any any any permit

 airslice-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

 monitoring-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

wlan access-rule NETWORK1

 utf8

 index 3

 rule any any match any any any permit

 airslice-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

 monitoring-application-list zoom slack skype webex gotomeeting office365 dropbox amazon-aws github ms-teams

wlan ssid-profile NETWORK2 

 enable

 index 0

 type employee

 essid NETWORK2 

 utf8

 wpa-passphrase 8306bc253fc94969bc36216e6f426500dcb4db9c2e2e9170

 opmode wpa2-psk-aes

 max-authentication-failures 0

 vlan 80

 auth-server InternalServer

 rf-band 5.0

 captive-portal disable

 dtim-period 1

 broadcast-filter none

 g-min-tx-rate 6

 denylist

 dmo-channel-utilization-threshold 90

 local-probe-req-thresh 0

 max-clients-threshold 64

 dot11r

 wmm-uapsd-disable

wlan ssid-profile NETWORK1

 enable

 index 1

 type employee

 essid NETWORK1

 utf8

 wpa-passphrase 1c6c5cf99a2039f252712e123d238a6901a9f6d06686896cd7849d096f0955724bb609dfc0c824b842eef5bfbe96af25

 opmode wpa2-psk-aes

 max-authentication-failures 0

 vlan 30

 auth-server InternalServer

 rf-band 5.0

 captive-portal disable

 dtim-period 1

 broadcast-filter all

 g-min-tx-rate 12

 a-min-tx-rate 12

 a-beacon-rate 12

 g-beacon-rate 12

 multicast-rate-optimization

 denylist

 dmo-channel-utilization-threshold 90

 local-probe-req-thresh 0

 max-clients-threshold 1024

 dot11r

auth-survivability cache-time-out 24

dpi

url-visibility

wlan external-captive-portal

 server localhost

 port 80

 url "/"

 auth-text ""

 auto-allowlist-disable

 https

denylist-time 3600

auth-failure-denylist-time 3600

ids

 wireless-containment none

 infrastructure-detection-level high

 client-detection-level high

 infrastructure-protection-level high

 client-protection-level high

wired-port-profile wired-SetMeUp

 switchport-mode access

 allowed-vlan all

 native-vlan guest

 no shutdown

 access-rule-name wired-SetMeUp

 speed auto

 duplex auto

 no poe

 type guest

 captive-portal disable

 no dot1x

wired-port-profile default_wired_port_profile

 switchport-mode trunk

 allowed-vlan all

 native-vlan 1

 port-bonding

 no shutdown

 access-rule-name default_wired_port_profile

 speed auto

 duplex full

 no poe

 type employee

 captive-portal disable

 no dot1x

enet0-port-profile default_wired_port_profile

uplink

 preemption

 enforce none

 failover-internet-pkt-lost-cnt 10

 failover-internet-pkt-send-freq 30

 failover-vpn-timeout 180

airgroup

 disable

airgroupservice airplay

 disable

 id _airplay._tcp

 id _raop._tcp

 id _appletv-v2._tcp

 server-expiry 10

airgroupservice airprint

 disable

 id _ipp._tcp

 id _pdl-datastream._tcp

 id _printer._tcp

 id _scanner._tcp

 id _http._tcp

 id _http-alt._tcp

 id _ipp-tls._tcp

 id _fax-ipp._tcp

 id _riousbprint._tcp

 id _ica-networking._tcp

 id _ptp._tcp

 id _canon-bjnp1._tcp

 id _ipps._tcp

 id _ica-networking2._tcp

 id _universal._sub._ipp._tcp

 id _universal._sub._ipps._tcp

 server-expiry 10

airgroupservice AmazonTV

 disable

 id _amzn-wplay._tcp

 server-expiry 10

airgroupservice DIAL

 disable

 id urn:dial-multiscreen-org:service:dial:1

 id urn:dial-multiscreen-org:device:dial:1

 server-expiry 10

airgroupservice "DLNA Media"

 disable

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:2

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:3

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:4

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:2

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:3

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaPlayer:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:ZonePlayer:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AlarmClock:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:DeviceProperties:1

 id urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:GroupManagement:1

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