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  • 1.  Layer II Circuit

    Posted Aug 07, 2013 01:46 PM

    I have a 300MB TimeWarner  Ethernet circuit between my Home Office and Colo and wanted to know if I could assign bandwidth/QOS based on VLANS.  For Example, VLAN 200 will be dedicated to Storage traffic, VLAN300 will be dedicated to Database traffic and so on.  I don't want one type of traffic dominated the whole circuit and wante to assign specifc bandwdith to each type of traffic.

     

    At home office, I have HP 5400zl switch, and at the colo we purchased an HP A-5830 switch.

     

    Please advise if the above possible or alternate solution.

     

    Regards,

     



  • 2.  RE: Layer II Circuit

    Posted Aug 07, 2013 07:08 PM

    Hi aali,

     

    Whether you can do this is dependent upon whether your Time Warner circuit passes VLAN tags through without interference.  This is normally called Q-in-Q.  You should ask them whether that's something the circuit can do, but the easiest method is just to test it.  Tag a test VLAN on both ends of the link, assign some IP addresses, and see if you can ping.

     

    If your link doesn't provide Q-in-Q, your simplest option is probably to use a routed connection and configure different subnets on each end of the link.



  • 3.  RE: Layer II Circuit

    Posted Aug 07, 2013 10:08 PM

    Hi Paul,

     

    Thank you for your response.  Yes, the TW will be able to pass VLAN tagging between the sites, but I will also test it.

     

    Now, what be the easiest method to assign bandwidth per VLAN as I stated in my original thread.

     

    Regards,

     

     



  • 4.  RE: Layer II Circuit

    Posted Aug 07, 2013 11:06 PM
    Hi aali,

    I'll leave the bandwidth capping features to those more qualified than me. If i remember correctly, 5400s don't have that feature, so you might have to do it only on the 5820 end. But it's been a while since i've touched 5400s, so don't take my word for it.


  • 5.  RE: Layer II Circuit

    Posted Aug 08, 2013 12:17 AM

    I still play with 5400s, but I haven't played with "Guaranteed Minimum Bandwidth", which is probably the feature you want.

     

    FIrst, check how many queues you have configured in QoS ("show qos queue-config"). Hopefully you haven't fiddled with this and it is set to its default correspondences.

     

    Then, you assign a bandwidth % for each queue on your outbound "edge" port, eg

    int a1-a5 bandwidth-min output 2 3 30 10 10 10 15 20

    or

    int a1-a5 bandwidth-min output 2 3 30 10 10 10 15 strict

     

    (Queues in order from 1 to 8. "strict" means 8 gets everything it needs. Otherwise if set to "20", 8 gets 20%, plus it gets to use whatever it needs from whatever is unused in all the other queues. Then 7 gets its chance, etc... If your %s don't all add up to 100, then whatever is left over is just unused and available for use by any oversubscribed queues, highest-priority queue getting first choice).

     

    The traffic is assigned a queue according to the 802.1p frame tags.

     

    (HP seem to love using 6 for voice, but normally 802.1p says 5 should be used for voice, I think they've confused TOS 5 with queue 6, or I just haven't understood them properly).

     

    Just looking in the manual, they seem to explain this correctly:

     

    Table 20 Per-port outbound priority queues
    802.1p Priority settings in tagged VLAN packets1 Outbound priority queue for a given port
    1 (low)                                                                                      1
    2 (low)                                                                                      2
    0 (normal)                                                                               3
    3 (normal)                                                                               4
    4 (medium)                                                                             5
    5 (medium)                                                                             6
    6 (high)                                                                                     7
    7 (high)                                                                                     8
     

    This is correct, because you shouldn't be using TOS 6 (which is 110) or 7 (111).

     

    But elsewhere, I swear I see them trying to get you to use TOS 6 for voice instead of 5 (correct value of 101).

        

    Mind you, all that can be moot anyway if your upstream provider haven't got their network configured properly: I have a WAN link where a TOS of 4 is prioritised (good, normally used for video), 0 is given default priority, but a TOS of 5 experiences 50% packet loss. And apparently this large, multinational telecom company doesn't understand what they are doing wrong when I tried explaining it to them. Twice. Their guys in suits didn't believe me that they would be doing this, and their guys in jeans didn't see the problem.

     



  • 6.  RE: Layer II Circuit

    Posted Aug 08, 2013 04:24 AM

    Thank you Paul and Vince.