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  • 1.  Bandwidth limit

    Posted Jan 06, 2020 07:27 PM

    Three IAP335. All connected via poe @ 1Gb.

    No bandwidth limits configured.

    Running OS 8.6.0.1

     

    When connecting via 802.11ac, cant push over 200Mb via iperf3.

    Before upgrading to later 8.5.x/8.6.x OS, was always able to acheive 350-400Mb using the same hardware and configuration. 

     

    Was a code change (or bug) implemented in a later 8.5.x or 8.6.x code that could be casuing the bandwidth limiting?

     



  • 2.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 06, 2020 07:37 PM

    What options are you using with iperf?  Do you have broadcast filtering set to "arp" on that SSID?



  • 3.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    Posted Jan 06, 2020 11:53 PM

    @cjoseph wrote:

    What options are you using with iperf?  Do you have broadcast filtering set to "arp" on that SSID?


    Broadcast filtering set to Disabled.

     

    iPerf: 5 streams to a iperf server on same switch as AP335s.

     

    I get the same 200Mb limit using speedtest.net as well on wifi. Wired, I get 942Mb to same speedtest.net server.

     

     



  • 4.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 07, 2020 12:33 AM

    What is your channel width on the 5ghz band?

     



  • 5.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    Posted Jan 07, 2020 12:50 AM

    @cjoseph wrote:

    What is your channel width on the 5ghz band?

     



    80Mhz



  • 6.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 07, 2020 12:56 AM

    At 80mhz, by default, you only have two non-overlapping channels which means that two APs will degrade each other's performance.  In addition, you should enable broadcast filter ARP on all SSIDs, so that you are not competing with broadcast traffic.



  • 7.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    Posted Jan 07, 2020 01:00 AM

    Disabled 80Mhz.

    Enabled broadcast filter ARP.

     

    Speeds are now half: 100Mb on iperf.

     

     



  • 8.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 07, 2020 01:45 AM

    No.  You would either have to (1) make sure you are not on an 80mhz channel that another access point is on or (2) add another 80mhz channel to the regulatory domain to ensure you are not on an 80mhz channel that another access point is on.

     

    You also would add the -w512k parameter to iperf to ensure you are using a properly sized Window.

     

    What operating system is this, and how far are you from the access point?



  • 9.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    Posted Jan 07, 2020 02:46 AM
    Ap1: 149e
    Ap2: 36e
    Ap3: 149e

    Same max 200Mb limit on ios13 and win10 devices.

    Tried lowering firmware back to 8.5.0.1. Same issue.


  • 10.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    MVP EXPERT
    Posted Jan 07, 2020 03:06 AM
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    For reference... I use a AP-325 with ArubaOS 8.6.0.0 at 80mhz (one AP without co-channel interference (not advised in office environments). My iPerf test are 500Mbit/sec download with iPhone8 and Windows 10 with 802.11ac 2x2 antenna.

     

    If your have low throughput at different type of devices then its no diver issue at the client side and should the main reason be RF interference or low signal strength (low SNR), or at the LAN side but your checked that allready.

     

    Use a spectrum analyser like Ekahau or if dont have that, download WinFi Lite and look for RSSI,SNR, channel ulitization (calculated without spectrum analyser), 802.11 standard. Also check if you have high re-transmission rates. Is VHT enabled in you configuraton?

     

    Also note that the channel 149 is in the 5GHz U-NII-3 band what give you max. 25mw EIRP in the Europe regulatory domain (what should be fine with a good AP placement plan. Standard Recommendation, lower your tx power to around 30mw and equals to the tx power of your weakest client device). See attachment.

     

     



  • 11.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    Posted Jan 07, 2020 11:55 AM

    @mkk wrote:

    For reference... I use a AP-325 with ArubaOS 8.6.0.0 at 80mhz (one AP without co-channel interference (not advised in office environments). My iPerf test are 500Mbit/sec download with iPhone8 and Windows 10 with 802.11ac 2x2 antenna.

     

    If your have low throughput at different type of devices then its no diver issue at the client side and should the main reason be RF interference or low signal strength (low SNR), or at the LAN side but your checked that allready.

     

    Use a spectrum analyser like Ekahau or if dont have that, download WinFi Lite and look for RSSI,SNR, channel ulitization (calculated without spectrum analyser), 802.11 standard. Also check if you have high re-transmission rates. Is VHT enabled in you configuraton?

     

    Also note that the channel 149 is in the 5GHz U-NII-3 band what give you max. 25mw EIRP in the Europe regulatory domain (what should be fine with a good AP placement plan. Standard Recommendation, lower your tx power to around 30mw and equals to the tx power of your weakest client device). See attachment.

     

     


    Thanks for the suggestions.

     

    I think what I find odd is that there have been no config changes nor changes to the "air". Speed tests that used to be consistently at 300-400Mb, are now almost "locked" at a ceiling of 200Mb.Never goes higher then around 200Mb. Seems almost like a setting is creating a limit.

     

    arm
     wide-bands 5ghz
     80mhz-support
     a-channels 36,40,44,48,149,153,157,161,165,36+,44+,149+,157+,36E,149E,36S
     g-channels 1,6,11
     min-tx-power 3
     max-tx-power 127
     band-steering-mode prefer-5ghz
     air-time-fairness-mode preferred-access
     scanning
     client-match
    
    rf dot11g-radio-profile
     max-tx-power 9
     min-tx-power 6
     smart-antenna
    
    rf dot11a-radio-profile
     max-tx-power 18
     min-tx-power 15
     smart-antenna
    
    rf dot11a-secondary-radio-profile
     min-tx-power 15
     smart-antenna

    wlan ssid-profile SOHO
     enable
     index 0
     type employee
     essid SOHO
     wpa-passphrase 
     opmode wpa2-psk-aes
     max-authentication-failures 0
     rf-band all
     captive-portal disable
     dtim-period 1
     broadcast-filter arp
     multicast-rate-optimization
     dynamic-multicast-optimization
     dmo-channel-utilization-threshold 80
     local-probe-req-thresh 0
     max-clients-threshold 64
     dot11k
     dot11v


  • 12.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 07, 2020 01:03 PM

    Please open a case with Technical Support and let us know here how it goes.  The only thing I see that can be affecting your performance is changing "preferred-access"

    air-time-fairness-mode 

    to default access.



  • 13.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    MVP EXPERT
    Posted Jan 07, 2020 01:56 PM

    What are your RSSI,SNR and 802.11 re-transmission rate levels on the client device?

     

    On a Iphone RSSI is visible through the airport utility app (enable in application settings first).

    SNR and re-tranmissions are best visible in your controller.

     



  • 14.  RE: Bandwidth limit

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 07, 2020 08:58 AM

    @fastman314 wrote:
    Ap1: 149e
    Ap2: 36e
    Ap3: 149e

    Same max 200Mb limit on ios13 and win10 devices.

    Tried lowering firmware back to 8.5.0.1. Same issue.

    We answer this question quite a few times on the forum, and everyone gets differing results based on their setup and different factors; many that are beyond control.  Outside of a lab environment, where everything can be controlled, the main limiting factors are the client(s) in use and environmental factors.  If you want to pursue this, you can open a Technical Support case and obtain their assistance to help you running these tests, but again, the environment, since wireless is a shared medium, will probably be the most limiting factor.