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AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

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  • 1.  AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 08:08 AM

    Hi,

     

    We have 3pcs  AP 105 ,a few pcs remote AP and one controller 620. Previously, we installed the controller and 2 AP 105 in the same Office LAN, now we move the controller to the data center.  In order to maintain the current ip addresses, we use doulbe NAT on both site firewalls, and create a site to site VPN.   Now both sites use the ip address 172.16.1.0x/24 , and office lan nat to 172.16.10.x,/24 data center lan nat to 172.16.20.x/24.  So the ip address of controller in data center is 172.16.1.10,  On APs in office ,we set the master controller ip address to 172.16.20.10, the AP in office can connect to the controller (site to site vpn) and registered on the controller, but the LEDs (Ethernet, Wirelesss) on the AP shows "RED".  And the client pc can see the SSID, but cannot get the IP address from dhcp server ( on controller). Pls advise what are the possible the cause. The "RED" LED means "GRE" tunnel not working fine ,right?

     

    Thanks a lot in advance. 



  • 2.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 05, 2015 08:20 AM

    Campus Access points in general will not work if there is a NAT boundary between the access points and the controller.  This is because of GRE.

     



  • 3.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 08:32 AM

    Thanks for so fast reply.  

    So can we just remove one NAT to let it work? I mean just use normal site to site vpn, it will work fine for AP 105?  office lan 172.16.1.x  (AP 172.16.1.10), data center 192.168.1.x  (controller 192.168.1.2)

     

    regards

     

     



  • 4.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 05, 2015 08:34 AM

    Removing NAT increases possibility that it will work.  If you are using site to site VPN, you might have to lower the MTU in the AP system profile to maybe 1100 to make it work.



  • 5.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 08:43 AM

    Besides to change the ip address of master controller on AP and lower the MTU, is there any additional configuration requirement for campus AP go through site to site VPN? 

     

    Thanks



  • 6.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 05, 2015 09:29 AM
    Removing the Nat is the key. You should only consider lowering the MTU after that if the access points do not come up on the controller.


  • 7.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 09:52 AM

    thanks a lot for your kind reply. we will try it



  • 8.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 10:50 AM

    Hi, one more question.  the GRE tunnel need to be configured on the controller manually? or the AP will auto use initial GRE tunnel with the controller? Thanks



  • 9.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 10:51 AM

    Hi, one more question.  the GRE tunnel need to be configured on the controller manually? or the AP will auto use initial GRE tunnel with the controller? Thanks



  • 10.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 10:53 AM

    Once you provision the AP under AP Installation the controller automatically initiates the GRE tunnel to the AP. There is no need to build a manual GRE tunnel.



  • 11.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 05, 2015 10:56 AM

    thanks a lot 



  • 12.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 12, 2015 08:32 PM

    Hi, 

     

    Good morning. One more question, how to set MTU in AP system? at AP installation (privisioning) page? I don't see can set the MTU for AP. 

    Looking forward to your kind reply again. Thanks a lot .



  • 13.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 12, 2015 08:37 PM

    AP system profile.

     

    mtu-apsys.png



  • 14.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 12, 2015 08:44 PM

    Got it, thanks  a lot for so fast reply. 



  • 15.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 13, 2015 08:41 AM

    Hi ,

     

    how about RAP? better to reduce MTU to 1100 also? we have some RAP , and use them at home to connect the controller in office.  The user feed back the connection for RAP sometime INT . 

    another question about the ap configuration lose,  some ap will lose the configuraiton after a few times power on/off. what are the possible causes?

    thanks 



  • 16.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jan 13, 2015 08:43 AM

    The RAP MTU is already lowered by default.  If the MTU was not low enough, the RAP would just never connect.

     

    If you are having problems with RAPs, please open another thread so that can be focused on.



  • 17.  RE: AP 105 cannot talk to the controller 620 when go through site to site VPN( double NAT, 2sits same IP

    Posted Jan 13, 2015 08:49 AM

    ok, thanks for your kind reply.