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Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

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  • 1.  Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    Posted Nov 20, 2015 02:45 PM

    I could use some help on what the specific needs are in setting up Apple Remote Desktop v3.8 on Aruba.  Is AirGroups needed to make this hapen and if so what specifically is it using?  It seemed to be working temparily but now has stopped and I am unsure of what is needed to make the current version work..

     

    Thanks!



  • 2.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Nov 20, 2015 02:48 PM
    How are you using Apple Remote desktop is the answer to that. There are specific ports that need to be allowed. Are you allowing them?http://www.how2s.org/index.php/Howto_get_Apple_Remote_Desktop_to_work_behind_a_router


  • 3.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    Posted Nov 20, 2015 11:45 PM

    I have these ports allowed for these lab computers... It is specifically when i try to share my screen to all the others.



  • 4.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Nov 21, 2015 05:33 AM

    mattjhughes,

     

    If you are allowing those ports and you are still seeing that issue, what do you think could be the problem?



  • 5.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    Posted Dec 02, 2015 10:57 AM

    the screen sharing does not work with allow-all as the user-role.  Other aspects of the ARD are working fine,  I can share a screen with one individual computer, and I can remotely observe/control another users screen.  However when I try to share the instructor screen with more then one  computer,  it does not work.   I am looking over the ARD documentation and do not see much regardingmulticast, but wondered if it could be something that needsAirGroups to resolve.  Is there a good command to test if the client is attempting to usemulticast traffic? I saw 

    show airgroup blocked-queries 

    however it does not seem to show specific users, or I do not know how to associate them to the UUID. 



  • 6.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 02, 2015 12:31 PM

    mattjhughes,

     

    You should run the command "show datapath session table <ip address of client>"  a few times exactly when you are attempting the remote desktop to see what traffic is being passed, to see if anything is being blocked.



  • 7.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    Posted Dec 02, 2015 01:58 PM

     

    Here is some of the output from the command you mentioned.  I see the Y flag for some of the traffic, but was not sure if that was just UDP traffic.   I tried to do the screen share about 10 times and it worked (for thie first time) 1 of those 10 times however, nothing was changed, as far as I could tell.    As an aside I thought there was an easy way to change the role of a user using the CLI,  something like aaa user change role or something.  I wanted to create a custom role just for testing, and asign via the CLI.

     

     

    (Aruba7240) (config) #show datapath session table 10.31.14.176 | include 10.31.17
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   1   tunnel 3268 14   4          376        FCA             
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   1   tunnel 3268 14   4          664        FA              
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   5900  5900   0/0     5    0   0   tunnel 2209 e    17         816        FC              
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   5900  5900   0/0     5    0   0   tunnel 2209 e    16         1152       F               
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   5900  49439  0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3268 c    0          0          FYA             
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   49439 5900   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3268 c    8          384        FCA             
    
    (Aruba7240) (config) #show datapath session table 10.31.14.176 | include 10.31.17
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   1   tunnel 3268 8    2          188        FCA             
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3268 8    2          188        FA              
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   5900  49439  0/0     0    0   7   tunnel 3268 7b   0          0          FY              
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   49439 5900   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3268 7b   46         2208       FC              
    
    (Aruba7240) (config) #show datapath session table 10.31.17.16 | include 10.31.14.176
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   1   tunnel 3268 a    2          188        FCA             
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3268 a    2          188        FA              
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   5900  49439  0/0     0    0   11  tunnel 3268 ba   0          0          FY              
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   49439 5900   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3268 ba   67         3216       FC              
    
    (Aruba7240) (config) #show datapath session table 10.31.17.16 | include 10.31.14.176
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   1   tunnel 3268 d    2          188        FCA             
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   1   tunnel 3268 d    2          188        FA              
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   5900  49439  0/0     0    0   11  tunnel 3268 bd   0          0          FY              
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   49439 5900   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3268 bd   68         3264       FC              

     



  • 8.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 02, 2015 03:21 PM

    Port 5900 and port 3283 according to apple:  https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202944

     

    aaa user add <ip address> <role> will switch roles of a user.

     



  • 9.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    Posted Dec 03, 2015 02:21 PM

    Sorry I can not understand the output from the command that well,  are you thinking it is being blocked on 5900? or is that standard for UDP traffic on that port (the Y flag)   Also when I try to change the role using the comand. 

     

    aaa user add 10.31.17.16 role Secure-Role

    and then look in the user-table it still has the old role assigned..  

     

    Any ideas on what should be my next steps? Thank you much for the help so far.  

     



  • 10.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 03, 2015 04:04 PM

    I don't see it being blocked.  The Y flag is for UDP traffic or one-way TCP traffic.  Protocol 17 means that it is UDP traffic.  All the traffic looks like it is unicast, so no airgroup/mdns type discovery traffic there.  Please identify the other ip addresses in the output to determine what the computer is attempting to talk to...



  • 11.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Dec 03, 2015 04:09 PM

    @mattjhughes wrote:

    Sorry I can not understand the output from the command that well,  are you thinking it is being blocked on 5900? or is that standard for UDP traffic on that port (the Y flag)   Also when I try to change the role using the comand. 

     

    aaa user add 10.31.17.16 role Secure-Role

    and then look in the user-table it still has the old role assigned..  

     

    Any ideas on what should be my next steps? Thank you much for the help so far.  

     


    also, the aaa user add command is case-sensitive for the role. The ip address and role need to be typed exactly; there is no error output to the command.

     



  • 12.  RE: Apple Remote Desktop for a wireless lab

    Posted Dec 03, 2015 04:36 PM

     

     

    It seems like it will throw an "Unknown role" error if you do enter it incorrectly

     

     

    (Aruba7240) #aaa user add 10.31.89.78 role Secure-FAKE
    Unknown role

    in the end I just changed the role for these machines in Clearpass when they authencated for the time being.    It still does not work with the following role, I turned off Deep Packet and Classification

     

    user-role Secure-Role
     max-sessions 65535
     dpi disable
     web-cc disable
     access-list session global-sacl
     access-list session apprf-Secure-Role-sacl
     access-list session allowall
    !

     

     

    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   5900  55272  0/0     0    0   8   tunnel 3267 84   0          0          FY              
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3267 2    1          94         FC              
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    17   55272 5900   0/0     0    0   0   tunnel 3267 84   43         2064       FC              
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     6    60290 5900   0/0     5    0   0   tunnel 3267 163  373        19396                      
    10.31.14.176    10.31.17.16     17   3283  3283   0/0     0    0   1   tunnel 3267 2    1          94         F               
    10.31.17.16     10.31.14.176    6    5900  60290  0/0     5    0   0   tunnel 3267 163  379        116046     C  

    I suppose it could be related to the program itself, but it works via the Wired network.