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Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

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  • 1.  Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 02:32 PM

    Environment:

    - Fulfillment Center (215,000sqft)

    - 26x AP 134's 3x AP214

    - Controller ArubaOS (MODEL: Aruba3600-US), Version 6.4.2.18

    - RF Devices: Motorola MC3190, MC32N0, WT41N0

     

    Summary:

     

    These HHD's (hand held devices) have historically been problematic with users reporting wireless connectivity issues (dropping of the network).  I have scoured these Airhead threads to find input and have tried all advice in this thread:

    https://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Wireless-Access/Constant-dropouts-for-our-Motorola-Symbol-Scanners-MC9090G/td-p/241524

    and additionally put my ARM g and a into Maintain mode

     

    Interesting log statements:

     

    authmgr[1860]: <132093> <ERRS> |authmgr|  WPA2 Key message 4 from Station 00:23:68:e7:26:6e b4:5d:50:88:fc:21 PGH-FC-AP30-c0:8f:c2 did not match the replay counter 01 vs 02

     

    authmgr[1860]: <522027> <WARN> |authmgr|  MAC=00:23:68:cd:69:b8 IP=10.1.80.242 IP Spoof from MAC=00:23:68:cb:bc:5f role=authenticated/(null)

     

    -Band steering is enabled

    -Backoff Time = 1800

    -Error Rate Threshold 75%

    -Error Rate Wait Time 90 sec

     

    We experience these drop offs every day.  Sometimes they effect the work stream more sometimes less...  Any help is welcome!

     

    Thanks,

     

    rif



  • 2.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 03:12 PM

    "did not match the replay counter" typically means possible interference.

     

    Are those devices running on the 2.4ghz or the 5ghz band?



  • 3.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 03:16 PM

    Hi Colin,

     

    The quick answer is that most of them use "g" and in the past we went through all of them to configure them to use g and a but as I was troubleshooting one this morning I noticed it was only configured to use "g" so at this point I do not know how many are configured thusly.  I need to go through them all manually to check.

     

    rif



  • 4.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 03:26 PM

    Okay.  Do you have a screenshot of the Dashboard> Performance Page?



  • 5.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 03:29 PM
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    Please see attached screen shot...



  • 6.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 04:39 PM

    You have some APs where the channel busy is high.  See if those APs correspond to the areas where you are having problems.  You would then look to see if it is cochannel interference that could be causing that...



  • 7.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 04:40 PM

    Thank you Colin, looking now...

     

    rif



  • 8.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 04:50 PM

    Colin,

     

    Yes, a few of those WAP's are in an area where drops are reported.  Although the number of WAP's in that channel busy catagory changed mid observance to 4 from 6.  Two are on channel 11 and two are on channel 1

     

    rif



  • 9.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 04:51 PM

    now the count went up to 7.  should i look at rolling back to single-band from Maintain mode?



  • 10.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 05:16 PM

    No, don't change anything.  You would want to go to where one of those access points are and see what the coverage is like using Aruba utilities (how many APs can be seen).  If there is a lot of coverage, you could consider turning down the ARM max transmit power for that band by 3 and see if it makes a difference in coverage and on the dashboard.

     

    What is your ARM min and max transmit power for the 2.4ghz band?  Do you have broadcast filtering enabled?



  • 11.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 05:22 PM

    min is 9 max is 15 and they are ALL at 9.  remind me where to find broadcast filtering?  i do believe that has been enable but I'd like to double check.  Also, I am not familiar with "Aruba utilities"

     

    thanks,

     

    rif



  • 12.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 05:27 PM

    Is that for the 2.4ghz band (9)?  Broadcast Filtering should be on the Virtual AP profile...



  • 13.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 05:32 PM

    yes 9 is the min for 2.4.  as far as Broadcast Filtering goes I do not see that exact function under the VAP rather is see:

     

    Drop Broadcast and Unknown Multicast
    Convert Broadcast ARP requests to unicast

     

    could it be somewhere else?

     

    rif



  • 14.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 09:00 PM

    It is "Drop Broadcast and Unknown Multicast"



  • 15.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 09:06 PM
    Yup already had that checked (enabled)
    Also what was that about aruba utilities?

    Rif


  • 16.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 09:46 PM
    Aruba Utilities is an Android app that will tell you the signal strength of surrounding access points from the client perspective. It gives you and idea of coverage.


  • 17.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jul 27, 2017 09:54 PM
    I will check that out. Any other thoughts?

    Rif


  • 18.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jul 27, 2017 10:03 PM

    Not right now, but I'm just guessing.  I would open a tac case in parallel.



  • 19.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Aug 10, 2017 05:15 PM

    In troubleshooting this RF device "dropping" problem I've been asked to run long term packet captures on a WAP.  In the past I've sent the capture data to my Mac running wireshark.  I cannot use my Mac as a long term destination for the capture data.  Is there a way to leverage the controller or Airwave for a long term packet capture?

     

    rif



  • 20.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Aug 10, 2017 05:35 PM

    What make/model are these devices with the dropping issue?  



  • 21.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Aug 10, 2017 06:25 PM

    RF Devices: Motorola MC3190, MC32N0, WT41N0



  • 22.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Sep 29, 2017 01:46 PM

    Does anyone know a good debug option for seeing if anykind of scanning or channel negotiation (ARM in Maintain Mode) could be responsible for Handheld RF devices losing connectivity (WPA2 PSK SSID)

     

    Thanks,

     

    rif



  • 23.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jan 22, 2018 10:55 AM

    Hi,

    did anyone find the problem? is this fixed?



  • 24.  RE: Hand Held RF devices lose network connectivity

    Posted Jan 22, 2018 11:34 AM

    I am not really sure if we ever found one single problem...