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Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

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  • 1.  Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    Posted Sep 21, 2012 05:21 PM

    Supposedly 6.1.2.6 added a feature called Software Retries (sw-retry).    I am troubleshooting 802.1x authentication timeout issues with Mac (and some iOS) devices.  I want to turn this feature on, but my 6.1.3.3 installation doesn't seem to have it.  Was this removed somewhere along the line?

     

    From the 6.1.2.6 release notes:

     

    Changes in Retries (AP to Client)
    When the client is not responding to 802.11 packets, the AP will launch two hardware retries; if the hardware retries are notsucessful then software retries. Default value of this knob is disabled (see also 58358).
    A knob has been added under HT-SSID profile - sw-retry (type: boolean)
    To enable:   wlan ht-ssid-profile <profile name> sw-retry
    To disable:  wlan ht-ssid-profile <profile name> no sw-retry

     

    Thanks



  • 2.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?
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    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Sep 21, 2012 05:43 PM

    It is temporal diversity, now, but it should not really affect timeouts.

     

    Do you have OKC unchecked already?

     

     



  • 3.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    Posted Sep 21, 2012 05:55 PM

    At first I tried validate PMKID with OKC on; but then also tried OKC off.   Neither had any noticeable affect.  Research brought me to what was the sw-retry setting; no Temporal Diversity.   You don't think it won't have any benefit to 802.1x authentications timing out?  

     

    I've had very inconsistent experience, mostly from MacBooks and to some degree to iPads.   I originally thought it to be ClearPass Policy Manager issue, but seemed to have ruled that out with TAC, they wanted to involve the controller team, but I have not gotten to that yet (next step).   I've gone thorugh all the recommendations for Macs that I know of and from this community, but still having the problems.   I am trying to determine if indeed it is Aruba or Apple related.   It's a K-12 with very little Windows; which don't seem to have any issues.

     

    Thanks



  • 4.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Sep 21, 2012 06:03 PM

    Are the timeouts in the Clear Pass Policy Manager or somewhere else?

     



  • 5.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    Posted Sep 21, 2012 06:10 PM

    Yes, CPPM shows Request Timed out waiting for client reply.   The Mac Book clients usually report:  Could not join "NETWORK".  A connection timeout occurred.  

     

    TAC went through all the logs and didnt' see any issues with CPPM and/or AD as back-end.    I started to do some show auth-trace bu commands, but didn't see anything definitive in my eyes; but will share.   Feel free to respond, but I'll probably open a new thread and clomark this sw-retry one as resolved.



  • 6.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    Posted Sep 21, 2012 07:24 PM

    Colin, one more thing.  If you had to sum up that setting (temporal diversity); what would you say its benefit is?  What scenario might you see it implemented.



  • 7.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Sep 21, 2012 09:24 PM

    what are your dot1x profile settings for

     

     Authentication Server Retry Interval  
     Authentication Server Retry Count    

            



  • 8.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    Posted Sep 21, 2012 10:19 PM

    @ariyap

    Using the default settings; they have not been changed:

     

    Authentication Server Retry Interval   = 30
    Authentication Server Retry Count  = 2

     

     



  • 9.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Sep 21, 2012 10:35 PM

    try it with and see if it makes a diff

     

    Authentication Server Retry Interval = 5

    Authentication Server Retry Count  =  3       



  • 10.  RE: Software Retries (sw-retry) of HT-SSID Profile - Is it Gone?

    Posted Sep 22, 2012 11:35 PM

    Not a great group of test users on the weekend, but after changing those retry settings, we still get the timeouts; and this is with about 20 people on an 80 AP network.   I'll work on getting some more debugging on this; but thanks for the suggestion.