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cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

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  • 1.  cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    Posted May 07, 2014 04:54 PM

    After moving our AP's from older controllers running 5.4 code to new 7220's running 6.3.1.5 our cisco 7921 and 7925 phones are having a lot of trouble connecting. Many times thoughout the day the phone re-registeres with the call manager. Looking at the voice logs I see a lot of faild called. I searched the fourm and found someone had posted a VRD link for the 7921 the post was from 2012 and now the link isn't working. I called Aruba TAC support they didn't seem to know anything how to fix it. 


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  • 2.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted May 07, 2014 05:14 PM

    The Roaming VRD here:  http://www.arubanetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/DG_Roaming.pdf has a config stub for Cisco wireless phones.  Pay attention to the max and min ARM tx.  It is very important.  The only difference is that the portion under rf ht-radio-profile should be CSD override, instead of single chain legacy.

     

    rf ht-radio-profile <802.11a ht radio profile>
    
       single-chain-legacy   CSD override
    


  • 3.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    Posted May 07, 2014 06:53 PM

    We also noticed 5 phones when you make a call the audio doesn't work but the phone conencts just no audio. 



  • 4.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted May 07, 2014 07:25 PM

    Flawless phone quality requires very good RF and density that is greater than typical coverage.  That has to be done before anything can be troubleshot.  One way audio, silence, etc can all be traced back to RF issues, so the RF needs to be tuned appropriately.  Please take a look at the roaming VRD for ideas on what to do with your RF for voice.



  • 5.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    Posted May 07, 2014 09:51 PM

    Why woudl it work perfectly when the AP-70's and 65's were running on the old 800 controller using 3.3.3.3 but once we moved it to the new controllers we have issues. The configuration on both controllers are the same where they match up some new settins are not on the old controller, but we are  using all the default settings on the new controller. I will check into the VRD they talked about code versoins from a long time ago, but should still apply

     

    Here is the settings on our controller

    (DVDM-ARUBA-01) #show rf ht-radio-profile default-a

    High-throughput radio profile "default-a" (Predefined (editable))
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Parameter Value
    --------- -----
    40 MHz intolerance Disabled
    Honor 40 MHz intolerance Enabled
    CSD override Disabled

    (DVDM-ARUBA-01) #show rf ht-radio-profile default-g

    High-throughput radio profile "default-g" (Predefined (editable))
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Parameter Value
    --------- -----
    40 MHz intolerance Disabled
    Honor 40 MHz intolerance Enabled
    CSD override Disabled

     

     

    Adaptive Radio Management (ARM) profile "default"
    -------------------------------------------------
    Parameter Value
    --------- -----
    Assignment single-band
    Allowed bands for 40MHz channels a-only
    80MHz support Enabled
    Client Aware Enabled
    Max Tx EIRP 127 dBm
    Min Tx EIRP 15 dBm
    Rogue AP Aware Disabled
    Scan Interval 10 sec
    Aggressive scanning true
    Active Scan Disabled
    ARM Over the Air Updates Enabled
    Scanning Enabled
    Multi Band Scan Disabled
    VoIP Aware Scan Enabled
    Power Save Aware Scan Disabled
    Video Aware Scan Enabled
    Ideal Coverage Index 10
    Acceptable Coverage Index 4
    Free Channel Index 25
    Backoff Time 240 sec
    Error Rate Threshold 50 %
    Error Rate Wait Time 30 sec
    Channel Quality Aware Arm Disabled
    Channel Quality Threshold 70 %
    Channel Quality Wait Time 120 sec
    Minimum Scan Time 8
    Load aware Scan Threshold 1250000 Bps
    Mode Aware Arm Disabled
    Scan Mode all-reg-domain
    Cellular handoff assist Disabled
    Client Match Enabled
    Client Match report interval (sec) 30
    Allows Client Match to automatically clear unsteerable clients after ageout Enabled
    Client Match Unsteerable Client Ageout Interval 2 Days 0 Hours
    Client Match Band Steer A Band Min Signal (-dBm) 75
    Client Match Sticky Client Check Interval (sec) 3
    Client Match Sticky client check SNR (dB) 25
    Client Match SNR threshold(dB) 10
    Client Match Sticky Min Signal 70
    Client Match Restriction timeout (sec) 10
    Client Match Load Balancing threshold (%) 20
    Client Match VBR Stale Entry Age (sec) 120
    Client Match Max steer failures 3
    Client Match Load Balancing client threshold 10
    Client Match Load Balancing SNR threshold (dB) 30
    Client Match Load Balancing signal delta bound (dB) 5



  • 6.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted May 07, 2014 10:57 PM

    Max Tx EIRP 127 dBm
    Min Tx EIRP 15 dBm

     

    It should be 18 max and 12 min, just like the VRD says for the Cisco configuration.  There are also parameters that you need to manipulate for the SSID profile that the phone connects to.  The physics of a non-802.11n and an 802.11n WLAN are different, not to mention that the patterns, and diversity differences between the access points.  Those differences loom large for a delay, latency and loss sensitive application like voip.



  • 7.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    Posted May 07, 2014 11:35 PM

    Thanks for the information too bad TAC support didn't know any of this when I called in about it a month ago. Frankly I'm suprised beacuse normally Aruba TAC is very good. Maybe the person I was dealing with had little experince with wireless phones. The strange thing is a past co worker who now is in the middle of a large cisco phone upgrade at another company said they are pulling out all cisco wireless phones and replacing with cordless base stations because of all the issues they have had. The funny part is they are using Cisco for the wireless system.  

     

    Ill go though the docement and put together the changes at last site we rolled the AP's over to the new controller.Be a good test I can create new profiles for that AP group. 



  • 8.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    Posted May 08, 2014 02:20 PM

    Checking into out ssid profile everything is set accroding to the document by default except DTIM period which I will change tonight.  I'm not sure on the RF profile changes because that will effect all devices connected not just phones.  These 2 changes

    max power settings to 18 and min 12 ours is set to min 15 and max 127

    rf arm-profile "802.11a arm profile name>"
    max-tx-power 18
    min-tx-power 12
    voip-aware-scan
    !
    rf ht-radio-profile <802.11a ht radio profile>
    single-chain-legacy

     

     

    SSID enable Enabled
    ESSID VOIP-NET
    Encryption wpa-psk-tkip
    DTIM Interval 1 beacon periods
    802.11a Basic Rates 6 12 24
    802.11a Transmit Rates 6 9 12 18 24 36 48 54
    802.11g Basic Rates 1 2
    802.11g Transmit Rates 1 2 5 6 9 11 12 18 24 36 48 54
    Station Ageout Time 1000 sec
    Max Transmit Attempts 8
    RTS Threshold 2333 bytes
    Short Preamble Enabled
    Max Associations 64
    Wireless Multimedia (WMM) Enabled
    Wireless Multimedia U-APSD (WMM-UAPSD) Powersave Enabled
    WMM TSPEC Min Inactivity Interval 0 msec
    Override DSCP mappings for WMM clients Disabled
    DSCP mapping for WMM voice AC N/A
    DSCP mapping for WMM video AC N/A
    DSCP mapping for WMM best-effort AC N/A
    DSCP mapping for WMM background AC N/A
    Multiple Tx Replay Counters Disabled
    Hide SSID Disabled
    Deny_Broadcast Probes Disabled
    Local Probe Request Threshold (dB) 0
    Disable Probe Retry Enabled
    Battery Boost Disabled
    WEP Key 1 N/A
    WEP Key 2 N/A
    WEP Key 3 N/A
    WEP Key 4 N/A
    WEP Transmit Key Index 1
    WPA Hexkey N/A
    WPA Passphrase 
    Maximum Transmit Failures 0
    EDCA Parameters Station profile N/A
    EDCA Parameters AP profile N/A
    BC/MC Rate Optimization Disabled
    Rate Optimization for delivering EAPOL frames Enabled
    Strict Spectralink Voice Protocol (SVP) Disabled
    High-throughput SSID Profile default
    802.11g Beacon Rate default
    802.11a Beacon Rate default
    Advertise QBSS Load IE Disabled
    Advertise Location Info Disabled
    Advertise AP Name Disabled
    802.11r Profile N/A
    Enforce user vlan for open stations Disabled



  • 9.  RE: cisco 7921 wireless phone issues

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted May 07, 2014 10:24 PM
    CSD override needs to be on. It is for non-HT clients that need to connect with an HT access point. That is one of the biggest differences.