Wireless Access

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
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Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Does it show the entries doing this: 

 show airgroup policy-entries 

Bob

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

No.

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #show airgroup policy-entries
This command is deprecated.

Does it show the entries doing this: 

 show airgroup policy-entries 

Bob

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

We are in the same boat with no Clearpass about to go from 8.6.0.19 to 8.10.0.7 when released, but not sure as no support for policy-entries any longer.

No.

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #show airgroup policy-entries
This command is deprecated.

Does it show the entries doing this: 

 show airgroup policy-entries 

Bob

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

When you move to 8.10, can you update this thread about your experiences with AirPrint printers and if they drop off in iOS like mine do?

We are in the same boat with no Clearpass about to go from 8.6.0.19 to 8.10.0.7 when released, but not sure as no support for policy-entries any longer.

No.

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #show airgroup policy-entries
This command is deprecated.

Does it show the entries doing this: 

 show airgroup policy-entries 

Bob

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Will do.

Bob

When you move to 8.10, can you update this thread about your experiences with AirPrint printers and if they drop off in iOS like mine do?

We are in the same boat with no Clearpass about to go from 8.6.0.19 to 8.10.0.7 when released, but not sure as no support for policy-entries any longer.

No.

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #show airgroup policy-entries
This command is deprecated.

Does it show the entries doing this: 

 show airgroup policy-entries 

Bob

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

8.12 add support back in, with caveats:

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/812/ArubaOS-8.12.0.0-Release-Notes.pdf

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Thanks. Our Aruba SE let me know that they were adding this functionality back in to 8.12 but wasn't sure when it would be released. I'll give this a go over the Summer.

8.12 add support back in, with caveats:

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/812/ArubaOS-8.12.0.0-Release-Notes.pdf

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

There will be some APs that are not supported in 8.12, so be sure to check whether the version supports all APs.

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Original Message:
Sent: Mar 11, 2024 08:36 AM
From: nkuhl30
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Thanks. Our Aruba SE let me know that they were adding this functionality back in to 8.12 but wasn't sure when it would be released. I'll give this a go over the Summer.

Original Message:
Sent: Mar 11, 2024 03:12 AM
From: TRS-80
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

8.12 add support back in, with caveats:

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/812/ArubaOS-8.12.0.0-Release-Notes.pdf

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 11:14 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:57 AM
From: Robert Viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

There will be some APs that are not supported in 8.12, so be sure to check whether the version supports all APs.

Thanks. Our Aruba SE let me know that they were adding this functionality back in to 8.12 but wasn't sure when it would be released. I'll give this a go over the Summer.

8.12 add support back in, with caveats:

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/812/ArubaOS-8.12.0.0-Release-Notes.pdf

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

That's great

However, the 8.12 direct mail is 8.12.0.0, so it's better to wait for a while.

There will be some APs that are not supported in 8.12, so be sure to check whether the version supports all APs.

Thanks. Our Aruba SE let me know that they were adding this functionality back in to 8.12 but wasn't sure when it would be released. I'll give this a go over the Summer.

8.12 add support back in, with caveats:

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/812/ArubaOS-8.12.0.0-Release-Notes.pdf

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and something is in the works to bring this command back. However, here is the result from the CLI in 8.10.0.6:

(ArubaMM) [SEM] #airgroup policy ap-group device-mac 30:E1:71:39:9C:06 add LS_Campus_ap
This command is deprecated.

I believe we have been told that the command is still present in the choices to use.

Test it out to see if working.

Bob

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Sure, no problem. However, my recent experiences with TAC have proven to be a waste of time.

And no, we do not have CPPM. We use FortiNAC for network access control.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jul 13, 2023 11:04 AM
From: Robert Viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Original Message:
Sent: 7/13/2023 10:53:00 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: RE: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jul 13, 2023 10:47 AM
From: Robert Viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Original Message:
Sent: 7/10/2023 6:37:00 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: RE: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 27, 2023 10:44 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 27, 2023 09:30 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Just incase this helps anyone, we ended up downgrading back to 8.7.1.11 within the first few weeks of September. AirPrint is stable, somewhat, in 8.7 and not in 8.10.

Since moving to AOS 8, we've always had an issue with wired AirGroup servers disappearing after several days or weeks. This includes AirPlay and AirPrint servers. The only workaround is to reboot the MC or disable/renable Openflow. 

After exhausting all troubleshooting measures, and using months of TAC support that led nowhere, I decided to take a spare AP-303h, disable the radios, and plug our wired AirPrint printers directly into the AP. These printers no longer disappear from clients and the controllers. It's been months and they're completely stable.

We do have a number of Apple TVs still wired in to the network and they continue to disappear after several days/weeks. However, that's not that big of an issue because Apple TVs also utilize bluetooth for discovery.

There have been newer few dot releases or 8.10 since we downgraded but I have no idea if these issues have been fixed or not.

Sure, no problem. However, my recent experiences with TAC have proven to be a waste of time.

And no, we do not have CPPM. We use FortiNAC for network access control.

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

You might try 8.10.0.10

But I have not encountered this problem, so it may need to be tested in a lab environment.

Just incase this helps anyone, we ended up downgrading back to 8.7.1.11 within the first few weeks of September. AirPrint is stable, somewhat, in 8.7 and not in 8.10.

Since moving to AOS 8, we've always had an issue with wired AirGroup servers disappearing after several days or weeks. This includes AirPlay and AirPrint servers. The only workaround is to reboot the MC or disable/renable Openflow. 

After exhausting all troubleshooting measures, and using months of TAC support that led nowhere, I decided to take a spare AP-303h, disable the radios, and plug our wired AirPrint printers directly into the AP. These printers no longer disappear from clients and the controllers. It's been months and they're completely stable.

We do have a number of Apple TVs still wired in to the network and they continue to disappear after several days/weeks. However, that's not that big of an issue because Apple TVs also utilize bluetooth for discovery.

There have been newer few dot releases or 8.10 since we downgraded but I have no idea if these issues have been fixed or not.

Sure, no problem. However, my recent experiences with TAC have proven to be a waste of time.

And no, we do not have CPPM. We use FortiNAC for network access control.

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Thanks for responding. Do you have a lot of wired AirPrint servers on your network? For whatever reason, I have a hard time finding others using AirGroup with AirPrint, wired or wireless.

You might try 8.10.0.10

But I have not encountered this problem, so it may need to be tested in a lab environment.

Just incase this helps anyone, we ended up downgrading back to 8.7.1.11 within the first few weeks of September. AirPrint is stable, somewhat, in 8.7 and not in 8.10.

Since moving to AOS 8, we've always had an issue with wired AirGroup servers disappearing after several days or weeks. This includes AirPlay and AirPrint servers. The only workaround is to reboot the MC or disable/renable Openflow. 

After exhausting all troubleshooting measures, and using months of TAC support that led nowhere, I decided to take a spare AP-303h, disable the radios, and plug our wired AirPrint printers directly into the AP. These printers no longer disappear from clients and the controllers. It's been months and they're completely stable.

We do have a number of Apple TVs still wired in to the network and they continue to disappear after several days/weeks. However, that's not that big of an issue because Apple TVs also utilize bluetooth for discovery.

There have been newer few dot releases or 8.10 since we downgraded but I have no idea if these issues have been fixed or not.

Sure, no problem. However, my recent experiences with TAC have proven to be a waste of time.

And no, we do not have CPPM. We use FortiNAC for network access control.

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

I haven't come across a scenario where there are a lot of AirPrint servers.

Thanks for responding. Do you have a lot of wired AirPrint servers on your network? For whatever reason, I have a hard time finding others using AirGroup with AirPrint, wired or wireless.

You might try 8.10.0.10

But I have not encountered this problem, so it may need to be tested in a lab environment.

Just incase this helps anyone, we ended up downgrading back to 8.7.1.11 within the first few weeks of September. AirPrint is stable, somewhat, in 8.7 and not in 8.10.

Since moving to AOS 8, we've always had an issue with wired AirGroup servers disappearing after several days or weeks. This includes AirPlay and AirPrint servers. The only workaround is to reboot the MC or disable/renable Openflow. 

After exhausting all troubleshooting measures, and using months of TAC support that led nowhere, I decided to take a spare AP-303h, disable the radios, and plug our wired AirPrint printers directly into the AP. These printers no longer disappear from clients and the controllers. It's been months and they're completely stable.

We do have a number of Apple TVs still wired in to the network and they continue to disappear after several days/weeks. However, that's not that big of an issue because Apple TVs also utilize bluetooth for discovery.

There have been newer few dot releases or 8.10 since we downgraded but I have no idea if these issues have been fixed or not.

Sure, no problem. However, my recent experiences with TAC have proven to be a waste of time.

And no, we do not have CPPM. We use FortiNAC for network access control.

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------

Do you use AirGroup and have any wired AirGroup servers in your system?

I haven't come across a scenario where there are a lot of AirPrint servers.

Thanks for responding. Do you have a lot of wired AirPrint servers on your network? For whatever reason, I have a hard time finding others using AirGroup with AirPrint, wired or wireless.

You might try 8.10.0.10

But I have not encountered this problem, so it may need to be tested in a lab environment.

Just incase this helps anyone, we ended up downgrading back to 8.7.1.11 within the first few weeks of September. AirPrint is stable, somewhat, in 8.7 and not in 8.10.

Since moving to AOS 8, we've always had an issue with wired AirGroup servers disappearing after several days or weeks. This includes AirPlay and AirPrint servers. The only workaround is to reboot the MC or disable/renable Openflow. 

After exhausting all troubleshooting measures, and using months of TAC support that led nowhere, I decided to take a spare AP-303h, disable the radios, and plug our wired AirPrint printers directly into the AP. These printers no longer disappear from clients and the controllers. It's been months and they're completely stable.

We do have a number of Apple TVs still wired in to the network and they continue to disappear after several days/weeks. However, that's not that big of an issue because Apple TVs also utilize bluetooth for discovery.

There have been newer few dot releases or 8.10 since we downgraded but I have no idea if these issues have been fixed or not.

Sure, no problem. However, my recent experiences with TAC have proven to be a waste of time.

And no, we do not have CPPM. We use FortiNAC for network access control.

Hi Robert,

It's just AirPrint. Our Macs are both wired and wireless. I tested the printers on both wired and wireless as well but still the same result. 

Again, bonjour discovery seems okay. AirPrint discovery dies after 10-20 minutes for each printer. However, the records are visible on the controllers. 

I have a TAC appointment at 12PM today so they can look at it.

Just a quick update. We upgraded to 8.10.0.7 over the weekend and the issue remains. AirPrint devices are visible to iOS/iPadOS for 10-20 minutes after a reboot. Then they drop off completely. However, Macs can find them without a problem using Bonjour. That's never been an issue.

Curiously, the records are always visible in the controller, it's just that iOS/iPadOS devices can't see them. 

I'm assuming this is a bug and will open a case with TAC. Although, I'm not looking forward to going down that rabbit hole of lost time.

Yeah I noticed that as well. However, I disconnected one of our printers from the wired network and connected it to wifi. The issue remains. It shows up for 10-20 minutes on iOS then disappears until the printer is rebooted. It's not a sleep issue either on the printers. I've maxed out the sleep settings on all of them.

there is a bug id for version 8.10.0.7 that sounds like this may be why for you, AOS-242343 page 35.

https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/ArubaOS-8.x-Books/Release-Notes/810/ArubaOS-8.10.0.7-Release-Notes.pdf

first seen in ArubaOS 8.10.0.5

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:37 AM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

I would love to, however, this command is deprecated in 8.10. It's ridiculous. There's no way to control wired AirGroup servers in 8.10 and beyond without the use of CPPM, which we do not have.

However, when the printer is connected to wifi, it auto-associates to the ap-group. The printer's still become undiscoverable after 10-20 minutes on iOS.

------------------------------
Nathan K

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 20, 2023 10:29 AM
From: viou
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

Are you able to add a policy group entry to manually add to an ap-group for it to show up and test?

airgroup policy ap-group device-mac <mac address>  <ap group name>

Thanks

Bob

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 19, 2023 08:13 PM
From: nkuhl1630
Subject: AOS 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint

We recently upgraded from 8.7.1.10 to 8.10.0.6 and AirPrint discovery seems to be broken.  We have a few AirPrint printers that will show up on iOS/iPadOS devices for about 10-20 after the printer reboots. Then, like clockwork, they disappear and won't show up again until the printer reboots. After about 10-20 minutes, the issue repeats itself. I tested the printers on the wired and wireless networks. The issue is the same on both.

Curiously, the printers themselves always show in the AirGroup servers list, on the cluster, and never disappear. Macs can always see them as available bonjour printers, but they disappear on iOS and iPadOS.

Is anyone aware of any bugs? AirPrint discoverability by iOS and iPadOS devices in 8.7.1.10 was solid. 

------------------------------
Nathan K
------------------------------