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Can't access to management vLAN

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  • 1.  Can't access to management vLAN

    Posted Feb 15, 2023 12:19 PM

    Hi, I have a strange problem with Aruba 2930M, this problem occurs with 3 different stacks connected to each other with a trunk.

    For security reasons I want to move the switch management to a separate vlan which already exists on all stacks and is used for iLO, VMware console, Veeam, Backup NAS etc.

    Until now all stacks were managed from 2 consoles (1 workstation and 1 VM) to the IP configured on the primary vLAN.

    Now I want the switches to be managed by the two consoles using the IP that I assigned to the vLAN Management but both consoles don't access either via SSH or via https; the situation is as follows:

    vlan 1

       name "DEFAULT_VLAN"

       no untagged 1/29-1/30,1/32-1/43,2/29-2/30,2/32-2/43,2/48,3/32-3/42

       untagged 1/1-1/28,1/31,1/44-1/48,1/A3-1/A4,2/1-2/28,2/31,2/45-2/47,2/A3-2/A4,3/1-3/31,3/43,3/45-3/48,3/A1-3/A4,Trk1-Trk2,Trk6

       ip address 192.168.0.234 255.255.255.0

       exit

    vlan 10

       name "Management"

       untagged 1/33,1/43,2/43

       tagged Trk1-Trk2

       ip address 172.16.11.222 255.255.255.0

       exit

    The physical workstation has IP 172.16.11.121 and is connected to port 1/33 untagged for vlan 10, the VM has IP 172.16.11.21 and it is in a portgroup of a VMware virtual Switch tagged for vLAN 10.

    Both manage to ping both the IP 192.168.0.234 and the IP 172.16.11.222 but they manage to enter SSH or HTTPS only on the IP 192.168.0.234, if at this point I send the command management-vlan 10 I lose any possibility to manage the stack.

    Yesterday I did some tests and I discovered that my laptop connected to port 1/33 is perfectly able to access via SSH and HTTPS also the IP 172.16.11.222.

    My laptop had IP 172.16.11.123 and it had never been used to manage switches, I tried swapping IPs between my laptop and the physical console: my laptop stopped working and the console started working!

    For this reason I think the switches don't allow access to management's IP from IPs that have already accessed vLAN 1 IP before.

    How can I reset the condition without restarting stacks or changing console IPs?

    Thanks in advance



  • 2.  RE: Can't access to management vLAN

    Posted Feb 16, 2023 03:31 AM

    You are aware that the management VLAN is exempt from L3 switching?

    If you activate management-vlan 10 you need to either connect the management consoles directly to VLAN 10 or provide routing via other means, e.g. a firewall.



  • 3.  RE: Can't access to management vLAN

    Posted Feb 16, 2023 03:45 AM

    Hi Zac67, thanks for answer.

    Yes I know and I think it's a feature and not a problem, that's why I intend to use it to further isolate the management network.
    In fact, if you see from the show run, port 1/33 is untagged for vLAN 10 and that's where the console is connected.
    The problem is that with the current IP (172.16.11.121) the console is unable to connect either in SSh or in HTTPS to the IP 172.16.11.222 which I assigned to the vLAN10 of the switch.
    If I change the IP at the console (e.g. 172.16.11.123) then everything works.
    I think the switches don't allow access to management's IP from IPs that have already accessed vLAN 1 IP before.
    Since I can't change the IP of the other console, the virtual one (172.16.11.21) I wanted to know if there is a command to "reset" the cache or whatever it is that prevents me from connecting.




  • 4.  RE: Can't access to management vLAN

    MVP GURU
    Posted Feb 16, 2023 01:36 PM

    Hi, could you share a sanitized running configuration of one of your three Aruba 2930M backplane stacks? are you testing SSH (or HTTPS) access within a stack (example: workstation connected to - say - interface 1/n untagged member of Management VLAN 10 with proper IP addressing of the stack where you defined VLAN 10 as the "Management (non-routable) VlAN")?




  • 5.  RE: Can't access to management vLAN

    Posted Feb 17, 2023 09:39 AM

    Hi parnassus,

    below I send you an ipconfig of the console and the show run of a stack.
    The console is a physical workstation directly attached to port 33 of stack member 1 and as you see port 1/33 is untagged for vlan 10.

    There is no doubt that this works at the connection/network level because if I simply change the workstation's IP to, for example, 172.16.11.122, I manage to administer everything correctly.

    The problem is that with the IPs 172.16.11.121 of the workstation and 172.16.11.21 of the server dedicated to management (which also acts as the DNS of 172.16.11.0/24 Network) I can't connect to the IPs of the stacks that I gave to vLAN 10.

    As strange as this is, I think it's because the switches somewhere wrote that the IPs 171 and 21 have so far been used to administer the switches using the native vLAN IPs (192.168.0.234 in this example) and for some reason I don't allow for the change to new IP.

    C:\Users\Admin.Console>ipconfig

    Configurazione IP di Windows


    Scheda Ethernet Ethernet:

       Suffisso DNS specifico per connessione:
       Indirizzo IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.11.121
       Subnet mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
       Gateway predefinito . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.11.254

    C:\Users\Admin.Console>

    SW-A-CED02# sh run

    Running configuration:

    ; hpStack_WC Configuration Editor; Created on release #WC.16.07.0003
    ; Ver #14:01.4f.f8.1d.9b.3f.bf.bb.ef.7c.59.fc.6b.fb.9f.fc.ff.ff.37.ef:02

    stacking
       member 1 type "JL323A" mac-address 883a30-a15d00
       member 1 priority 250
       member 1 flexible-module A type JL083A
       member 2 type "JL323A" mac-address 883a30-a03d80
       member 2 priority 200
       member 2 flexible-module A type JL083A
       member 3 type "JL323A" mac-address 883a30-a0af40
       member 3 priority 150
       member 3 flexible-module A type JL083A
       exit
    hostname "SW-A-CED02"
    trunk 1/A1,2/A1 trk1 lacp
    trunk 1/A2,2/A2 trk2 lacp
    trunk 2/44,3/44 trk6 lacp
    timesync ntp
    ntp unicast
    ntp server 193.204.114.232
    ntp enable
    telnet-server listen data
    time daylight-time-rule western-europe
    time timezone 60
    web-management listen data
    ip default-gateway 192.168.0.252
    ip ssh listen data
    snmp-server community "public" unrestricted
    snmp-server host 192.168.0.4 community "public" trap-level critical
    snmp-server listen data
    snmp-server contact "*************" location "Divisione Attrezzature - Rack02 CED"
    oobm
       disable
       ip address dhcp-bootp
       member 1
          ip address dhcp-bootp
          exit
       member 2
          ip address dhcp-bootp
          exit
       member 3
          ip address dhcp-bootp
          exit
       exit
    vlan 1
       name "DEFAULT_VLAN"
       no untagged 1/29-1/30,1/32-1/43,2/29-2/30,2/32-2/43,2/48,3/32-3/42
       untagged 1/1-1/28,1/31,1/44-1/48,1/A3-1/A4,2/1-2/28,2/31,2/45-2/47,2/A3-2/A4,3/1-3/31,3/43,3/45-3/48,3/A1-3/A4,Trk1-Trk2,Trk6
       ip address 192.168.0.234 255.255.255.0
       ipv6 enable
       ipv6 address dhcp full
       exit
    vlan 10
       name "Management"
       untagged 1/33,1/43,2/43
       tagged Trk1-Trk2
       ip address 172.16.11.222 255.255.255.0
       exit
    vlan 20
       name "DMZ"
       untagged 2/33,3/33
       tagged Trk1-Trk2
       no ip address
       exit
    vlan 30
       name "Fonia"
       untagged 1/29-1/30,1/32,1/41-1/42,2/29-2/30,2/32,2/41-2/42,3/41-3/42
       tagged Trk1-Trk2
       no ip address
       exit
    vlan 40
       name "Sorveglianza"
       untagged 1/35-1/37,2/35-2/37,2/48,3/35-3/37
       tagged 3/47,Trk1-Trk2
       no ip address
       exit
    vlan 50
       name "ProdA"
       untagged 1/34,1/38-1/40,2/34,2/38-2/40,3/32,3/34,3/38-3/40
       tagged 3/47,Trk1-Trk2
       no ip address
       exit
    vlan 90
       name "Isolamento"
       no ip address
       exit
    management-vlan 10
    spanning-tree Trk1 priority 4
    spanning-tree Trk2 priority 4
    spanning-tree Trk6 priority 4
    no tftp server
    tftp server listen data
    no autorun
    no dhcp config-file-update
    no dhcp image-file-update
    password manager




  • 6.  RE: Can't access to management vLAN

    MVP GURU
    Posted Feb 17, 2023 02:22 PM
    Ciao Stefano, probably I should take my time to better read this whole thread from beginning...è sera e sono cotto...let me just ask you why VLAN 10 (a quite normal VLAN, as far as I see) has IP address set to 172.16.11.222 when instead your Admin Console server was configured with 172.16.11.254 as its default gateway?

    Davide.






  • 7.  RE: Can't access to management vLAN

    Posted Feb 20, 2023 10:57 AM

    Hi parnassus,

    the switches do not take care of vlan-routing but it is managed by the firewall which in vlan 10 has an interface with IP 172.16.11.254
    I wrote you the details in private, let me know if you received the answer.
    Thank you