Pretty sure we didn't unilaterally make the decision to use those channels just based on the regulation wording, we probably talked directly with the regulatory body to get clarification as needed.
Original Message:
Sent: Jun 03, 2024 06:01 AM
From: frmeunier
Subject: IAP- DRT still not compliant with local regulatory -Europe, France - forbidden 5GHz channels
Hi All
Thank you for participating in this discussion (that's what I like the most in communities !)
European regulation uses 2 different terms (see DECISION (EU) 2019/1345 ) : "Non-specific short-range devices (SRDs)" and "Wideband data transmission devices" ("radio devices that use wideband modulation techniques to access the spectrum. Typical uses include wireless access systems such as radio local area networks (WAS/RLANs) or wideband SRDs in data networks.")
It seems that Wi-Fi is placed in this second category (see row 57c), not the first one. Therefore, even if not explicitly said, non-specific SRD's do not include Wi-Fi, and row 61 (5 725-5 875 MHz) should not be used for that.
Since the term "short-range" is not clearly defined, it is effectively questionnable.
For me it's a "grey" zone, that shall not trigger any regulatory issue (if 25mW/14dBm limit is respected).
to be continued...
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Frederic
(kudos welcome)
Original Message:
Sent: May 31, 2024 12:47 PM
From: onno
Subject: IAP- DRT still not compliant with local regulatory -Europe, France - forbidden 5GHz channels
That's correct, except that it's 25mW (14dBm) instead of 25dBm.
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/Onno Harms, Aruba Wireless Product Management
Original Message:
Sent: May 31, 2024 12:19 PM
From: Herman Robers
Subject: IAP- DRT still not compliant with local regulatory -Europe, France - forbidden 5GHz channels
I like the WLAN Channel Page on Wikipedia for such information. If you search there for Europe, there is a 'note 11' from 2017 that opened up those additional channels. Output power for those channels is limited to 25 dBm; but there is no DFS... so perfect for high density.
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Herman Robers
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Original Message:
Sent: May 31, 2024 06:46 AM
From: frmeunier
Subject: IAP- DRT still not compliant with local regulatory -Europe, France - forbidden 5GHz channels
Hello There,
There is still a problem with 5GHz available on IAP (AP-505, version 8.11.2.2 / DRT version 1.0_89073 )
channels 149 to 165 are not allowed, but still available to IAP :
See ETSI EN 301 893 section 4.2.3.2.2 (table 2) : 5725 MHz is the upper limit allowed.
And also ETSI EN 301 893 V1.5.1 (2008-12) in chapter 1 (scope) : The equipment is intended to operate in the frequency ranges 5 150 MHz to 5 350 MHz and 5 470 MHz to 5 725 MHz.
I saw a discussion 4 years ago concerning this (Austria) but seems to be the same.
If someone has a regulatory update to point me to, I'm interested.
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Frederic
(kudos welcome)
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