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No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

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  • 1.  No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Oct 05, 2023 02:57 PM

    Hello, 

    for whatever reason I cant get a link between an Aruba 6200F and an Aruba 8325 over fibre.

    The situation:

    Both are lag and lacp active configured. I tripple-checked, if I swapped RX and TX. 

    The tranceivers are on both ends J9150D and they see each other.

    These are the configs:

    8325:

     Status
      Temperature : 23.80C
      Voltage     : 3.30V
      Tx Bias     : 5.33mA
      Rx Power    : 0.39mW, -4.09dBm
      Tx Power    : 0.51mW, -2.92dBm

    interface lag 17 multi-chassis
        no shutdown
        no routing
        vlan trunk native 1
        vlan trunk allowed all
        lacp mode active

    6200F:

      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Lane  Tx Bias           Rx Power          Tx Power
            (mA)              (mW/dBm)          (mW/dBm)
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      1     6.2280            0.3112 / -5.07    0.5372 / -2.70

    interface lag 1
        no shutdown
        no routing
        vlan trunk native 1
        vlan trunk allowed all
        lacp mode active

    I hope you can tell me, why I cant get a link between those.



  • 2.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Oct 06, 2023 03:57 AM

    Hi, it could be for a lot of reasons. I would normally start with the physical layer. But with the 8325 I would start with the interface-group config

    system interface-group 1 speed 10g

        !interface group 1 contains ports 1/1/1-1/1/12

    system interface-group 2 speed 10g

        !interface group 2 contains ports 1/1/13-1/1/24

    system interface-group 3 speed 10g

        !interface group 3 contains ports 1/1/25-1/1/36

    Then:

    • Is the fibre a blue multimode fibre?
    • Is it a short enough cable?
    • Do you have a second cable to test?

    • What is the interface config for each of the physical interfaces?
    • what output for "show interface 1/1/x tran"?
    • what is the "show interface 1/1/x" on each switch?




  • 3.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Oct 09, 2023 02:02 AM

    The interface group config is the same as you posted for all three groups.

    For your other questions:

    • The fibre is a pink multimode OM4 cable.
    • The distance should not be a problem, more on that below
    • Cable is not the problem. Works if i connect them directly
    • Interface config
      • for 8325
        • interface 1/1/17
              no shutdown
              lag 17
      • for 6200
        • interface 1/1/51
              no shutdown
              lag 1
    • output for show int 1/1/x tran
      • 8325
        • ------------------------------------------------------------------
          Port      Type           Product      Serial          Part
                                   Number       Number          Number
          ------------------------------------------------------------------
          1/1/17    SFP+SR         J9150D       CN32KJV2SS      1990-4635
      • 6200
        • ------------------------------------------------------------------
          Port      Type           Product      Serial          Part
                                   Number       Number          Number
          ------------------------------------------------------------------
          1/1/51    10G-SR         J9150D       CN20KJV17M      1990-4635
    • show interface 1/1/x
      • 8325
        • Interface 1/1/17 is down
           Admin state is up
           State information: Waiting for link
           Link transitions: 0
           Hardware: Ethernet, MAC Address: 64:e8:81:19:29:e1
           MTU 1500
           Type SFP+SR
           Full-duplex
           qos trust none
           Speed 0 Mb/s
           Auto-negotiation is off
           Flow-control: off
           Error-control: off
           Rx
                      0 total packets                    0 total bytes
                      0   unicast packets
                      0   multicast packets
                      0   broadcast packets
                      0 errors                           0 dropped
                      0 CRC/FCS
           Tx
                      0 total packets                    0 total bytes
                      0   unicast packets
                      0   multicast packets
                      0   broadcast packets
                      0 errors                           0 dropped
                      0 collision
      • 6200
        • Interface 1/1/51 is down
           Admin state is up
           State information: Waiting for link
           Link state: down for 3 days (since Thu Oct 05 14:09:41 CEST 2023)
           Link transitions: 0
           Description:
           Persona:
           Hardware: Ethernet, MAC Address: a8:52:d4:f3:32:c0
           MTU 1500
           Type 10G-SR / 10G SFP+ SR
           Full-duplex
           qos trust none
           Speed 0 Mb/s
           Auto-negotiation is off
           Flow-control: off
           Error-control: off
           Rate collection interval: 300 seconds

           Rate                               RX                   TX        Total (RX+TX)
           ---------------- -------------------- -------------------- --------------------
           Mbits / sec                      0.00                 0.00                 0.00
           KPkts / sec                      0.00                 0.00                 0.00
             Unicast                        0.00                 0.00                 0.00
             Multicast                      0.00                 0.00                 0.00
             Broadcast                      0.00                 0.00                 0.00
           Utilization %                    0.00                 0.00                 0.00

           Statistic                          RX                   TX                Total
           ---------------- -------------------- -------------------- --------------------
           Packets                             0                    0                    0
             Unicast                           0                    0                    0
             Multicast                         0                    0                    0
             Broadcast                         0                    0                    0
           Bytes                               0                    0                    0
           Jumbos                              0                    0                    0
           Dropped                             0                    0                    0
           Pause Frames                        0                    0                    0
           Errors                              0                    0                    0
             CRC/FCS                           0                  n/a                    0
             Collision                       n/a                    0                    0
             Runts                             0                  n/a                    0
             Giants                            0                  n/a                    0

    for the distance:

    the weird thing about this situation is, that the distance works fine if I use older switches (8206 and 2610) and transceivers (J4858C) (we need to exchange the old ones).

    It looks something like this:

    Switch ---------> Panel -----------> Switch

    I hope my thoughts are clear enough.




  • 4.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Oct 09, 2023 04:45 AM

    Hi, it looks like you've done all the config checks necessary. The only thing I can add is some experience from a recent comware to CX hardware swap. I had comware edge switches connected via SR optics to a comware switch. All fine. Move the fibre to the CX8360 and the liinks would not work. In my case I actually got an occasional flash on the front of the switch, but not enough link to pass frames. Everything was equal because this was a simple hardware swap. Other SR connections on the new CX were fine. Right now I have the old comware switch acting as a media convertor between edge switch and router (ugly).

    Note, the fibre length is likely on the limits. I didn't question it with this hardware swap since two generations worked fine before (procurve and comware).

    Given that there are constraints on some models such as not allowing LRM, I suspect the power provided per port is lower than other hardware. So my next step if I was you would be to put a known working switch at each end and swap to a new CX one at a time. If using the same interfaces on both switches (but bring one switch to the other's rack) you get a link, you will be observing the same thing as I did.




  • 5.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Oct 09, 2023 08:46 AM

    Hi,

    I will try it another day to swap one by one. Did your setup work after your one by one swap?

    I just dont understand why it is not working with CX Switches and why I cant get a link even though every transceiver receives a signal within operating spec.

    Hope someone can explain this to me




  • 6.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 09, 2023 05:48 AM

    Any Follow up?

    I have the same Issue between 2 8325 connected with 9150d Transciever:

    Show interface transceiver shows RX and TX but i dont get any link:

    SW1

    RX 0.5539mw  TX 0.4264mw - no alarms

    interface 1/1/48

    no shutdown

    speed auto 10g

    lag256

    interface lag 256

    no shutdown

    no routing

    vlan trunk native 1

    vlan trunk allowed all

    lacp rate fast

    lacp mode active

    system interface group 4 speed 10g

    SW2

    RX 0.2216 mw TX 0.4797 mw - no alarms

    Interface 1/1/48

    no shutdown

    speed auto 10g

    lag 256

    Interface lag 256

    no shutdown

    no routing

    vlan trunk native 1

    vlan trunk allowed all

    lacp mode actice

    lacp rate fast

    system interface group 4 speed 10g

    it was double checked to have the fiber correctly crossed 




  • 7.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Nov 10, 2023 05:21 AM

    Hi,

    Do you have any other transceivers installed in the switch (any third party devices attached)?

    show interface transceiver



    ------------------------------
    Stanislav Naydenov
    ------------------------------



  • 8.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 10, 2023 05:34 AM

    Hi,

    no, all devices are original HPE Aruba devices. Even the Transceiver. Model is J9150D.

    Since last time I haven't tried exchange them one by one. Didn't have time.




  • 9.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 11, 2023 05:25 AM

    What is the status of ports?

    show lacp interfaces 

    show lacp interfaces multi-chassis

    show lacp aggregates

    show interface brief

    Best, Gorazd



    ------------------------------
    Gorazd Kikelj
    MVP Expert 2023
    ------------------------------



  • 10.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 13, 2023 01:56 AM

    On the 8325:

    show lacp interfaces
    1/1/17     lag17(mc)


    show lacp interfaces multi-chassis
    1/1/17     lag17(mc)


    show lacp aggregates
    Aggregate name   : lag17 (multi-chassis)
    Interfaces       : 1/1/17
    Peer interfaces  :
    Heartbeat rate   : Slow
    Hash             : l3-src-dst
    Aggregate mode   : Active


    show interface brief
    1/1/17    1       trunk  SFP+SR         yes     down    Waiting for link       --      Name


    On the 6200F:

    show lacp interfaces
    Actor details of all interfaces:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Intf       Aggr       Port  Port  State   System-ID         System Aggr Forwarding
               Name       Id    Pri                             Pri    Key  State
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1/1/51     lag1                                                         down
    1/1/52     lag1                                                         down


    Partner details of all interfaces:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Intf       Aggr       Port  Port  State   System-ID         System Aggr
               Name       Id    Pri                             Pri    Key
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1/1/51     lag1
    1/1/52     lag1

    show lacp aggregates
    Aggregate name   : lag1
    Interfaces       : 1/1/52 1/1/51
    Heartbeat rate   : Slow
    Hash             : l3-src-dst
    Aggregate mode   : Active

    show interface brief
    1/1/51    1       trunk  10G-SR         yes     down    Waiting for link       --      --
    1/1/52    1       trunk  --             yes     down    No XCVR installed      --      --


    Hope you can find something




  • 11.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 13, 2023 01:58 AM

    Hi,

    on 6200F

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Port      Type           Product      Serial          Part
                             Number       Number          Number
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    1/1/49    10G-SR         J9150D       CN20KJVLNC      1990-4635
    1/1/51    10G-SR         J9150D       CN20KJV17M      1990-4635

    On 8325:

    1/1/17    SFP+SR         J9150D       CN32KJV2SS      1990-4635




  • 12.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 20, 2023 08:53 AM

    I was able to solve my problemes with changing the transceivers:

    there were original HP J9150D-C which were not working but J9150D (without -C) were working. So my Problem was solved




  • 13.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 20, 2023 08:59 AM

    Can you see the "-C" on the CLI?

    I would like to check, if I got the same problem as you and switching transceivers would solve it.




  • 14.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Nov 20, 2023 09:54 AM

    i have not seen the -c on cli, only printed on the transceiver




  • 15.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Dec 27, 2023 04:55 AM

    Hey,

    small update: 

    Same 8000 Series Switch, different 6200F in different location. Same problem. Looking at the link aggregation, this is the result:

    BIE-E17-KG-01# show lag 1
    System-ID       : a8:52:d4:f2:c5:80
    System-priority : 65534
     
    Aggregate lag1 is down
     Admin state is up
     State information : Disabled by aggregation
     Description :
     Type                        : normal
     Lacp Fallback               : Disabled
     MAC Address                 : a8:52:d4:f2:c5:80
     Aggregated-interfaces       : 1/1/51 1/1/52
     Aggregation-key             : 1
     Aggregate mode              : active
     Hash                        : l3-src-dst
     LACP rate                   : slow
     Speed                       : 0 Mb/s
     Mode                        : trunk

    Both lags are configured the same. Any idea what could be the problem?




  • 16.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    MVP GURU
    Posted Dec 27, 2023 10:25 AM
    Again, are you uplinking a single Aruba CX 6200F (lag1 active, 1/1/51 + 1/1/52, original HPE Aruba J9150D SFP+ Transceivers used) against a VSX of Aruba 8325 (lagZ active multi-chassis, port 1/1/x of VSX Primary + port 1/1/x of VSX Secondary, original HPE Aruba J9150D SFP+ Transceivers used) or what?





  • 17.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Dec 27, 2023 10:44 AM

    This question has not been asked before.

    The 8325 is a VSX with multi-chassis enabled. 

    We use original HPE Aruba J9150D SFP+ Transceivers on both ends.

    No matter if the 6200F is a VSX or a standalone switch, both do not work.

    Do you need more information? I posted various commands previously.




  • 18.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Dec 27, 2023 02:58 PM
    Can you check that mclag-interfaces is in the vsx global config under vsx-sync.

    Ian







  • 19.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    MVP GURU
    Posted Dec 27, 2023 03:39 PM
    I would suggest the OP to perform a full diagnostic check on both sides (the VSX side and standalone switch side) searching for any anomaly: vsx's config, status and synch(s), vsx lags config and status (on the VSX side), physical interfaces' config and status, simple lags status (on standalone peer), Transceivers status and details...for all involved interfaces belonging to lags suffering the reported issue. That's the basics. Also a check on the physical side (each Fiber Optic path, end-to-end) would be benefical to better diagnose what is happening. Clearly reporting full (sanitized) outputs would be of help too.

    Sanitized (to me) means anonymized Serial Numbers and MAC Addresses (pay attention: anonymized in a way one that want to help you...is still able to "understand" / "recognize" who is who and if a Serial Number represents a non HPE Aruba original device/option or not).





  • 20.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Jan 08, 2024 06:58 AM

    Did a bit of tinkering today. Yet no success.

    What I did:

    • Factory reset and reconfiguring the lag on 6200
    • made interface on 8325 and 6200 a non lag
    • using different port on 6200
    • using different port on 8325
    • using different transceiver on 8325
    • using different transceiver on 6200
    • directly attached 6200 to 8325 via one fibre cable -> instant connect even without lag on 6200
    • attach different 6200 to questionable 6200 over fibre way - no connect

    My guess is, that the problem occurs from our fibre infrastructure. The problem is, I have no clue why. We are currently using the infrastructure and it is working fine. The tranceivers also do not give any hints to what the problem could be.  No Errors and the Receiving and Transmitting power are within the recommended range mentioned in the spec sheet provided by HPE on both sides.

    Any guess, what the problem could be or how we could identify it? Obvioulsy the fibre is working. Light is shining through.




  • 21.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Jan 08, 2024 07:40 AM

    Hi.

    Looks like one of your fibre link is maybe on the edge of transceivers budget.  It can be problem in the panel and patch cables to just add enough loss to the signal to break connection. So you can try to clean the connectors on the panel and patch cables or you can ask for end2end measurements of affected line. 

    As you wrote, there is instant connection if you connect directly so configuration looks ok. Looks much like line problem than anything else.

    Best, Gorazd



    ------------------------------
    Gorazd Kikelj
    MVP Expert 2023
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  • 22.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted Jan 08, 2024 08:11 AM

    Just checked specs for both transceivers. J9150D has a range of 400m on OM4 and J4858C has a range of 550m on OM2. Don't forget patch cables and patch connections. You can easily get equivalent of 50m or more on bad connections. So it looks like your line attenuation is too great for J9150D to work.

    Best, Gorazd



    ------------------------------
    Gorazd Kikelj
    MVP Expert 2023
    ------------------------------



  • 23.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted 13 days ago

    Hi,

    We also have the same problem, but I noticed that when the interface is taken out of the lag, the connection is established. If I put it back in the lag, the connection is disconnected. Therefore the transceiver cannot be defective.




  • 24.  RE: No fibre link between Aruba 6200F and Aruba 8325 with J9150D

    Posted 13 days ago
    On a CX, I see LACP links not coming up if there is anything wrong with the configuration across the two VSX members. One example would be that there are no interfaces bound to the lag on the opposite VSX member. A test beyond the "taking it out of the lag" would be to reconfigure without the multi-chasis part in the lag config and having a single interface bound on one VSX member.

    Or check:

    • both VSX members have the same lag config
    • both have interfaces configured in the lag with the same speed etc
    • VSX config itself has the mclag-interfaces element to it