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Occasional Contributor I

Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

I have a situation in a client, where the names of APs that detected an interfering AP are not displayed. The most interesting is that if you select Rogue APs or Suspect Rogues the information is displayed.

I opened a ticket with HP and they guided me in two ways:

- run the CLI commands:
    #show wms ap list
    #show ap database long

or

- open an RFE with our Sales Engineer.

My sincere opinion is that it seems like a Bug, something simple to solve instead of having to request a product improvement.

I would like your community opinion.

* Attached two pictures that exhibit the problem.

mTonini
ACMA
Occasional Contributor I

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

Someone?

mTonini
ACMA

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

the correct CLI commands to display the detector/match info are as follows

(7005) #
(7005) #show wms ap 18:64:72:xx:xx:xx

AP Info
-------
BSSID              SSID        Channel  Type        RAP_Type  Status  Ageout  HT-Type   HT-Sec-Chan
-----              ----        -------  ----        --------  ------  ------  -------   -----------
18:64:72:xx:xx:xx  wifizzz  149      generic-ap  rogue     up      0       HT-40mhz  153

Match Info
-----------
Match-Type        Match-Method  Match-MAC          Match-AP
----------        ------------  ---------          --------
Eth-GW-Wired-Mac  Exact-Match   00:0b:86:xx:xx:xx  apZZZ
Probe Info
----------
MAC                IP            Name   Type         Status  AP Type
---                --            ----   ----         ------  -------
80:8d:b7:xx:xx:xx  192.168.x.xx  apZZZ  air-monitor  up      315

(7005) #
(7005) #
(7005) #show wms rogue-ap 18:64:72:xx:xx:xx

Rogue AP Info
-------------
Key           Value
---           -----
BSSID         18:64:72:xx:xx:xx
SSID          wifizzz
Channel       149
Type          generic-ap
RAP Type      rogue
Status        up
Match Type    Eth-GW-Wired-Mac
Match MAC     00:0b:86:xx:xx:xx
Match IP      0.0.0.0
Match AM      apZZZ
Match Method  Exact-Match
Match Time    Fri Aug 31 21:34:21 2018

Match caused by Gateway MAC 00:0b:86:xx:xx:xx seen by (AP name or Controller):apZZZ

(7005) #

 

The info is available in the webui although it's not so intuiative to find it, example of how to do it in the attached images

 

hth

 

 

Occasional Contributor I

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

Hi hth,

 

Thanks for the information received, always good to know new commands and other routes via graphical interface.

 

I did tests and unfortunately for Interferentes the information is not displayed.
For rogue and suspect rogues yes, but for interferers always displays: unknown.

Attached is an image that demonstrates the result.

mTonini
ACMA

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

hi mTonini,

I see your point, I don't know it's a bug so much as it is intentional, because an interfering AP is simply something that is heard near by, detected by APs and or AMs (described as probes in the CLI), but not yet "classified" as rogue/suspect-rogue.

 

In show wms ap <> you can see multiple APs/AMs may have detected the AP, but only one device will have made the decision to classify it as rogue/suspect rogue as per "show wms rogue-ap <>" (which is what is 'classification details' in the webUI). Similarly the CLI command "show wms rogue-ap <>" cannot be run for anything that is not rogue or suspect rogue, the webUI simply runs CLI commands hence the lack of result for this section of the webUI.

 

Perhaps the webUI should have said "not yet classified" rather than "unknown", or, classification details should be hidden for something that is not classified yet (e.g. not a rogue/suspect-rogue)

 

-jeff

 

Occasional Contributor I

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

Hi Jeff,

Very grateful for the return.
I agree with you on all items.

 

The client's desire is only to be able to verify which AP detected an interferent through the graphical interface.

 

Information that can be obtained with the commands:
     #show wms ap list
     #show ap database long

 

We request to our HP reference the possibility of being visible this information.

 

Very grateful for the help.
Best Regards.

 

mTonini
ACMA

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

hi mTonini

Does clicking on hyperlink total number interfering APs in Security, in the top panel named "Discovered APs & Clients" give you what you want (you can also click on the hyperlink of "Total" then choose filter in the "AP Classification" column in the table below). As mentioned there is nothing to show for classification in the right hand side, because it's not yet classified.

 

For what it's worth, show ap database long has nothing to do with WMS, if you want that go to Monitoring -> Network -> All Acccess Points. Also interfering from WMS perspective does not imply interfering from an RF perspective.

 

-jeff

Occasional Contributor I

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

hi Jeff

 

[ Does clicking on hyperlink total number interfering APs in Security, in the top panel named "Discovered APs & Clients" .....]

 

R: This course is okay, I have it available and that's where I do the verifications.

 

[ For what it's worth, show ap database long has nothing to do with WMS, if you want that go to Monitoring -> Network -> All Acccess Points. Also interfering from WMS perspective does not imply interfering from an RF perspective.]

 

Q: I do not have the Monitoring option in the ArubaOS menu. In this client we are using version 8.3.0.1 in a Virtual Mobility Controller. (with PEF and RF-Protect licenses)

 

Best regards

Saluti

 

mTonini
ACMA

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

hi mTonini

 

to your original question:

"The client's desire is only to be able to verify which AP detected an interferent through the graphical interface."

 

and then your latest response

"R: This course is okay, I have it available and that's where I do the verifications."

 

I am not sure what the issue is then ? Interfering APs dont have a classification AP because they are not classified, there is nothing to display (as the webUI only will show the classification info on the right hand side)

 

Indeed there is no way to show the APs which have heard the intefering (or any other AP), that has been the case for a long time - you need to go to the CLI or use the API etc.

 

If you want to somehow show the "probes" (the detecting APs) as seen in the CLI command "show wms ap <bssid>" then that would be a feature request of some sort (raise on Innovation Zone portal).

 

To your comment

"Q: I do not have the Monitoring option in the ArubaOS menu. In this client we are using version 8.3.0.1 in a Virtual Mobility Controller. (with PEF and RF-Protect licenses)"

 

R: my only point was that show ap database is nothing to do with the WMS results (interfering, rogue etc. etc.). I accidentally quoted release 6 navigation, the equivalent for release 8 is Dashboard -> Access Points and then edit the columns to add more info (but I note that serial number cannot be added, that's a minor issue it seems).

 

regards

-jeff

Occasional Contributor I

Re: Name of Match AP that detects an interferer.

In fact the question continues, to visualize an AP that detected an interferente only through the CLI. We asked our HP referral for an improvement and now we have to wait.

I was only justifying that he had already tried the options he commented through the Security panel.

Regarding the menu Monitoring I decided to ask because I did not know if it had been withdrawn or another possibility.


Thank you for the information and for the kindness.
Best Regards

mTonini
ACMA
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