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  • 1.  Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jan 08, 2013 03:03 PM

    Hello Everyone

    I decided today doing a how to  site survy with an Instant  AP

     

    The chanllege are the fallowing:

    1-If you try to site survey with the instant just as it is, the issue you got is that the AP reboot, so then you need to have something connected, which is troublesome

     

    You can do it also with APs on remote mode with SSID Always but ill just explain how to do it with Instant APs.

     

    Okay here are the Steps

     

    1-Make sure you are running the lastest firmware

    2-You need to set the IAP In stand Alone mode, you can find this on Maintenance -> Convert -> Stand alone AP

    3-The AP will reboot

    4-When the AP Reboot you will have to change a value so that when the ethernet does not have anything connected the AP still goes up and it does not reboot, so go to Settings -> Uplink -> Uplink preference -> Ethernet

     

    After this you  will be able to reload the IAP and you dont need cables connected to the IAP

     

    You can have a Small Batery plugged to the IAP so you can carry it with your hand and also you can have maybe like i do a fluke  airchecker for the survys

     

    Anyways hopes this helps you all

     

    Cheers

    Carlos



  • 2.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jan 10, 2013 01:27 PM

    What is your AP radio power levels set to? 



  • 3.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jan 10, 2013 01:49 PM

    Well you can set channel and tx-power according to your site survey requirement before putting it on stand alone.

     

    Cheers

    Carlos



  • 4.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jan 10, 2013 02:08 PM

    lol I know that.

     

    I was asking what you typically set yours to. Do your customers state what they want you to survey at or do you typically suggest to them what you should survey at? Trying to get a feel of other customer numbers.

     

    We require our vendors to survey at 12 mW and complete coverage at -67dBm.

     

    Thanks

     



  • 5.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jan 10, 2013 02:14 PM

    No the custumer does not state us anything... or at least the one i have been..

    But still we try to give them a coverage of -65 Everywhere..

    We try this because of course if there is not a good coverage then the client will start complanining..



  • 6.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Feb 06, 2013 12:28 PM

    12 mW seems quite low. How did you all decide on that power level? Is that what you set your min_tx to?

     

    Edit: I am assuming this is EIRP right?



  • 7.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jan 27, 2014 12:33 PM

    Hi all,

    I have realized, that this procedure (IAP site survey without LAN connected) works very well in 3.2.x code, but in 3.3 and 3.4 it doesn't work any more.

     

    in the uplink preference GUI there is an new additional parameter, which has may a relation to that feature?

    I checked it with an IAP105.

     

    thanks for any feedback - as this feature is really nice!

    Rolf

     



  • 8.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual
    Best Answer

    Posted Feb 12, 2014 08:55 AM

    For this to work properly, do the following: (as Night pointed out)

     

        Make sure IAP is running on the latest IAP image
        Set essid, channel and tx-power according to your site survey requirement
        Set IAP to standalone mode (Maintenance --> Convert --> Standalone AP). The step needs IAP reboot.
        Set "enforce ethernet" below uplink (Settings --> Uplink --> Uplink preference --> Ethernet).
        Power up IAP by power adaptor OR battery pack OR PoE

     

     

    In the WLAN Settings -> advanced options (where you create your new WLAN).

     

    make sure you check off "can be used without uplink"

     

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  • 9.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Feb 13, 2014 08:37 AM

    Many thanks pmonardo,

    that what exactly the issue  !

    kind regards rolf

     



  • 10.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jul 09, 2014 05:27 AM

    with 6.4.0.2-4.1.0.0_44004 it does not work and the parameter habe changed as shown in the screenshots below. Is there any Solution to prevent the AP from rebooting?



  • 11.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jul 09, 2014 07:28 AM

    There seelct only - enforce uplink to eth0 and make sure it is in standalone mode

     

    try that and let us know how it goes



  • 12.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jul 09, 2014 09:21 AM

    got it working now:

     

    when i checked the filed "disable ssid on uplink failure" it works. But i thought i have to uncheck it. With cli "show configuration" i saw that it is the opposit.



  • 13.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jul 09, 2014 09:27 AM
    Interesting, maybe that label needs re-wording


  • 14.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Nov 11, 2014 04:56 PM

    OK I got this to work but it takes over 6 minutes for the AP to boot and the radios to come up. Is there anything I can do to get the AP to boot faster.

     

    Pat



  • 15.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Jun 29, 2015 06:20 AM

    i have some new problems with site survey and IAP

     

    ArubaOS (MODEL: 115), Version 6.4.2.6-4.1.1.7

     

    wlan ssid-profile SiteSurvey
     enable
     work-without-uplink
     index 0
     type employee
     essid SiteSurvey
     wpa-passphrase 0***************************
     opmode wpa2-psk-aes
     max-authentication-failures 0
     vlan guest
     auth-server InternalServer
     rf-band 2.4
     captive-portal disable
     dtim-period 1
     inactivity-timeout 1000
     broadcast-filter arp
     dmo-channel-utilization-threshold 90
     local-probe-req-thresh 0
     max-clients-threshold 64

     

    uplink
     no preemption
     enforce ethernet
     failover-internet-pkt-lost-cnt 10
     failover-internet-pkt-send-freq 30
     failover-vpn-timeout 180
     uplink-priority ethernet 1
     uplink-priority wifi 2
     uplink-priority cellular 3

     

     

    but it is rebooting every 10Minutes and shows

     

    Reboot Time and Cause: AP rebooted ***********; Gateway unreachable

     

    Please Help! i got it working once but changed firmware often since then.



  • 16.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Aug 27, 2015 05:48 PM

    Hi, jAyR. Did you find a way to keep the AP from rebooting?

    We have an AP105 with older firmware 6.3.1.2 that works just fine in standalone mode for surveying, but our new AP275 with 6.4.3.1-4.2.0.0 is rebooting constantly with the same "Gateway unreachable" reason.



  • 17.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Aug 28, 2015 03:27 AM

    for me it is working now . i have configured static ip, "work without uplink" and i think i needed to set :

    swarm-mode Standalone

     



  • 18.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual

    Posted Aug 28, 2015 12:14 PM

    Thank you, jAyR. I just had to add the "swarm-mode Standalone" and now the reboots are gone:)

    So it looks like two commands will do it:

    "swarm-mode Standalone" - to stop the rebooting

    SSID profile - "work-without-uplink" - to broadcast the SSID

     



  • 19.  RE: Site Survey with IAP Manual
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    Posted Jul 22, 2016 08:31 AM
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    To summarize:

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