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AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

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PAFNov 07, 2016 07:43 AM

  • 1.  AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Sep 14, 2015 04:06 PM

    I picked up 10 used (what I thought were IAP105's) AP-105's.  I have 25 IAP 105's on my network already.  My questions:

    1. Can I setup the AP-105 to connect to the virtual controller on the IAP-105 network

    2. If so, does it have to be configured over console?

    3. If I can't do that, I will have to buy a controller.  I am due for a major overhaul in 7-9 months, so I don't want to buy anything new.  Anyone know what controllers will manage these? From what I  have found, I'll need a 24 unit controller. 

    4. If a controller is introduced, will it mess with my current IAP's?

     

    Thanks for help in advance!

    Drew



  • 2.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Sep 14, 2015 04:10 PM

    No, the campus APs cannot be managed by the Instant VC.

     

    A 7010 controller will server 32 APs. You can either leave your Instant APs as is or convert them for use with the controller.



  • 3.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Sep 14, 2015 04:17 PM

    So they will not run in a mixed environment?  From what I have seen, it looks as though they plug directly into the device, and this is going in a 60,000 sq ft school, with multiple switching locations.  

     

    Should I just scrap these?



  • 4.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Sep 14, 2015 04:19 PM

    The AP-105s require a controller. Once you have a controller, the IAP-105s can either be converted to use the controller or remain independent running Instant.



  • 5.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Sep 14, 2015 04:23 PM

    Great. Last part of the question... Do they need to plug directly into the controller?  The 7010 is $3000, I just don't have that kind of a budget right now.  I'll sell these buy IAP's if I have to, but I'd rather get an older controller that can be scrapped in 7-9 months.

    Thanks for all your answers thus far, Cappalli.



  • 6.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network
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    Posted Sep 14, 2015 04:25 PM

    No, they can plug into any edge switch with IP space routable back to the controller.

     

    You could use an older 3200XM controller.



  • 7.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Sep 14, 2015 04:27 PM

    Thank you for all your time!

     



  • 8.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 07, 2016 06:13 AM

    Hi there,

     

    Could someone tell me what WiFi controllers I could use i.e. is compatible with AP -105 AP's. Thanks 



  • 9.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 07, 2016 06:52 AM

    All controllers should be compatible with the AP-105.



  • 10.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 07, 2016 07:43 AM

    Hi Colin,

    Thanks.



  • 11.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 08, 2016 03:24 AM

    Hi Colin,

     

    Would an Aruba 800 or 800-4 controller do it? I'm looking at a maximum of 16 AP's I believe these would work I would just like confirmatio of that.



  • 12.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 08, 2016 03:38 AM

    The 800 or 804 controller has been discontinued and will not run anything past ArubaOS 5.0.4.17. http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/support/EOS_800.pdf

     

    The 5.0.1.17 firmware was released two years ago and is also end of support:  http://www.arubanetworks.com/support-services/end-of-life/#ArubaOSSoftware  Many features and functionality has been added since.  In addition, any problems or issues with new clients on end of life hardware and software  cannot be fixed.  Please keep this in mind before attempting to obtaining end-of-life hardware or software.



  • 13.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 08, 2016 04:46 AM

    Hi Colin,

    Thanks for the info. how about an Aruba S2500-24P?



  • 14.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 08, 2016 05:03 AM

    That is a switch.  It cannot terminate APs.  It is also end of sale..



  • 15.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 08, 2016 05:20 AM

    Hi Colin,

    Yeah, my mistake. I'm just trying to find something (second hand) within a very tight budget.



  • 16.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 08, 2016 05:55 AM

    I'd like a controller for 16 AP's what would be the best and affordable unit I could buy? Thanks



  • 17.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 08, 2016 07:26 AM

    I would say the most affordable thing you could do is get IAP-105s, because those still support the latest GA code, and it would not require you to purchase a controller.  If you purchase a controller, and the only one you can afford is end of life, the code will not be upgraded to support any issues that might occur with newer clients., and that could cause trouble down the road.



  • 18.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 14, 2016 08:13 AM

    Hi Colin,

     

    Is an Aruba 3400 MULTI-SERVICE MOBILITY CONTROLLER still supported and capable of the utilising the latest AOS? Thanks



  • 19.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 14, 2016 08:37 AM
    The 3000 series (3400 included), will only support up to ArubaOS 6.4
    http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/support/EOS_Notice_3000_Series_Controllers.pdf


  • 20.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 14, 2016 10:15 AM

    Hello PAF,

     

    I assume that you already have the AP-105 access points. Why not use the Aruba 7005 controller which supports up to 16 AP's? Below is a compatability list:

     

    http://www.arubanetworks.com/support-services/end-of-life/#AccessPoints

     

    I'm not sure what you mean by a "tight" budget, but that controller is approximately $1500 USD list.

     

    Or the 7008 controller which also supports 16 AP's and provides 100W PoE+. List is approximately $2600 USD list.

     

    If this is going into a production environment, Aruba does not recommend maxing out the capacity of the controller. You will need to plan for future growth, etc.

     

    Thanks,

    -HLavender



  • 21.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 14, 2016 10:31 AM

    Hi HLavender, thanks for the advise but yeah, my budget is tighter than $1,500 (nearer $500) but thanks for the advise. Would a 3400-US be usable in the UK?



  • 22.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 14, 2016 12:20 PM

    Yes, but as mentioned before, the 3400 series controller will not support past Aruba AOS 6.4, which will work. I have a 3000 series controller running AP-105 on AOS 6.4.x in the lab.

     

    If you are an Aruba partner, check with your channel representative to see if you can get a discount on equipment. I was able to get 80% off of list price for a controller that I use in the lab. So the controller went from $1500 to $300 USD.

     

    Things may have recently changed so this will need to be verified.

     

    Thanks,

    -HLavender



  • 23.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 14, 2016 01:44 PM

    Oh, I just realized that you stated 3400-US. I do not believe that the 3400-US should be used outside of the United States of America. I'm not sure of the part number required for the UK...maybe a 3400-RW.



  • 24.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 14, 2016 01:49 PM

    http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/ds/DS_A3000.pdf

     

    Looks like the part number is Aruba 3400. Since the 3400 is End Of Sale, I assume that you currently have one or will purchase one from eBay or other third party site.



  • 25.  RE: AP 105 Controller on IAP 105 network

    Posted Nov 15, 2016 02:19 AM

    Hi HLavender,

     

    Yeah I'm looking at an Ebay item or third party as you have mentioned. There are plenty of controllers available from the US but obviously if they built for use in the US only they're useless to me in the UK. I'll just have to keep my eyes peeled for a compatible unit. Thanks for the info anyway, it's much appreciated..