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802.1x and MAC authentication

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  • 1.  802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jul 04, 2013 02:31 AM

    Hi,

     

    When I do WPA-2 Ent authentication to a NPS (radius) server, with "Perform MAC authentication before 802.1X" enabled, the username i entered doesn't get passed to the radius server. It passed the hardware MAC address to the radius server instead.

     

    Testing with either just the MAC or 802.1x authentication only works fine. But not when both are selected.

     

    Is this normal or it cannot be done with the instant AP?

     

    Thanks,

    jeremy



  • 2.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted May 26, 2014 08:15 AM

    is anyone have any solution for this ? 

     

    THanks,

    Pritesh



  • 3.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted May 26, 2014 11:32 AM

    Where is the option "Perform Mac Authentication first" configured?  On the NPS server?  



  • 4.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted May 27, 2014 02:55 AM

    this option is on the Aruba IAP 105  not on NPS server.  

    if we create user for mac address ( username+password = system mac id )  as well then only it able to connect.

     

    is there any way that mac address authentication will use internal database of Aruba IAP and pass username/password to radius ?

     

     



  • 5.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 01, 2014 10:16 AM

    pritesh.patil@claricetechnologies.com wrote:

    is there any way that mac address authentication will use internal database of Aruba IAP and pass username/password to radius ?


    nope it seems you can't, the both are send to the same server. one of the limits of the IAP at this moment.



  • 6.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 01:09 AM

    Can we use mac+ 802.1 authentication on Controller 7010? If yes, where's the option to put mac address? Would it be on radius server or internal database?

     

    Thanks



  • 7.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 01:46 AM
    For wireless or wired users?


  • 8.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 01:54 AM

    For wireless. We would like to deploy radius+ mac authentication.

     

    Thanks



  • 9.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 10:40 AM
    MAC address can be used as an authorization attribute after 802.1X authentication. What authentication / policy server will you be using?


  • 10.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 02:53 AM

    For wireless users. Would like to deploy radius + mac authentication on WLC 7010. But couldn't find sample configuration. Thanks

     



  • 11.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 03:24 AM

     

    Hi at all,

    I can´t say anything about the 7010 we have a 3200 controller.

    We have different SSID´s with different authentication methods for different types of endpoints.

    Similar for mobile devices (iPhone / iPad) we have Mac Auth + 802.1 X. So we have to enter the mac address into the internal database of the aruba controller (3200). If this happen the, now the user must authenticate his device with a active directory account over the nps.

    You must do both on controller, can´t do one on the IAP and the other in the controller.

    So you must configure under “ Security > Authentication > Servers > RADIUS Server” your radius server and under “Security > Authentication > Servers > Internal DB” you must insert the mac address.



  • 12.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 03:59 AM

    Thanks for the responses. Actually, would like to use mac + 802.1x at the same SSID. If we put mac addresses under local database for mac authentication and 802.1x is authenticated with radius server whis is AD, what's the network authentication and encryption type shall I choose?

     

    If we use only radius authentication, we choose WAP2 for authentication type and AES for encryption.

     

    Thanks

     

     



  • 13.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 10:50 AM
    This is not a recommended deployment. Static MAC lists on a controller are not scalable or easily manageable.


  • 14.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:08 PM

    May I know what is the recommended deployment for radius + mac authentication. We're using server 2012 as a NPS and authentication method is EAP(PEAP).

     

    Thanks



  • 15.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:15 PM

    Ei are you authenticating domain machines?



  • 16.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:17 PM

    yes, right. Only for domain users. Thanks



  • 17.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:20 PM

    Domain users on domain computers?



  • 18.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:22 PM

    yes, domain users on domain computers.



  • 19.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:34 PM

    The best thing you can do with NPS is to:

     

    - Configure your Wireless domain clients to authenticate as a computer only (under advanced> 802.1x tab)

    - Configure NPS to only authenticate devices from the "Domain Computers" group.

     

    The machine itself with authenticate to the wireless, but the user will still be required to login to to the machine to do anything.

     

    Other radius servers like clearpass can check to see if a user and a computer authenticated successfully before a device can pass traffic, but NPS is not as flexible.



  • 20.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:38 PM

    Screenshot of the client configuration:

     

    computer-auth.PNG



  • 21.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:45 PM

    Hi Colin,

     

    Thanks for the advice. Actually, we are currently using 802.1x authentication method and it's working fine. I just need advice 802.1x + mac authentication would be working with NPS server for futher deployment by using same SSID for domain machines. Also would like to know where we need to put mac address on radius server or on local database? 

     

     



  • 22.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    EMPLOYEE
    Posted Jun 29, 2016 09:55 PM

    When configuring 802.1x and mac authentication, the mac address must be created as a user in the radius server.  The username and password would be the mac address in AD (no delimiter).

     

     



  • 23.  RE: 802.1x and MAC authentication

    Posted Jun 29, 2016 10:10 PM

    Ok, thanks. I'll try.